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  114,000, Literal, or Symbolic?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a poster wrote to me privately, and brought to my attention the following comment below i made a while back in regards to the 144,00 number of revelation.

  i had casually conjectured that this number was likely symbolic in line with the book of revelation being mostly symbolic in kind.

  he brought up this juicy source:.

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  Rattigan350

  I agree with "If it is taken symbolically, no number in the book can be taken literally."
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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  I don't care about the use of the word 'creationist'. I'm just saying that JWs are not followers of the movement that says the earth is 6000 years old.

  I haven't look into the Creation book since 1986. I have my own ideas about how it happened.

  I believe there were 2 creations, one prior to what was written in Genesis.
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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  Evolution can not explain
  

  Well, yes it can, whether you accept it or not.
  And then the question is whether you accept, or don't accept it, based on knowing what the explanations are, or based on refusing to know what the explanations are.

  But they never do. All evolutionists do is say it happened and is true, but they can not explain how anything happened. If it is true, then explain it.
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  Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?

  and what`s the significance, if any ?.

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  Circumcision is not genital mutilation. It's fixing something that Jesus left off of the final design plans. Jesus made alot of mistakes in creation. That's why Jehovah had to take over and fix things.
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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  JWs aren't creationists.

  And the whole fossil thing is ridiculous.

  The very fact that females have mammaries that are triggered by pregnancy, and ovaries and a uterus and a canal that fits a penis that allows for fertilization and they get pleasure in the process; whereas men don’t have that, they have penis that fits in the canal that when ready to do that will take a shape to fit into it to fertilize those eggs and gets pleasure in the process.

  Evolution can not explain how an organism can split off and then evolve to the male and also evolve to the female where they have those separate functions. How would that one that evoles to a male know to alter the DNA to put a penis between the legs and then to make it erect to enter another person and then fertilze? How can a vagina evolve to fit a penis and then produce lubrication; when evolution has neither gender coordinating with each other. Why would mammaries even evolve since it is for the offspring? How could DNA of a mother evolve and mutate to develop organs for someone else?

  This all says there must be intelligent design. a creator that designed both to work together and he made it pleasurable so it gets done.
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  Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. current

  watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

  the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

  the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

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  They should never be getting government money
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  Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?

  and what`s the significance, if any ?.

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  Liberals today object to circumcision. They call it barbaric.

  Circumcision at 8 days is not barbaric.
  

  Jehovah did not explain. However, in recent years man has learned some of the physical reasons why the eighth day was a good time to circumcise. Normal amounts of the blood-clotting element called vitamin K are not found in the blood until the fifth to the seventh day after birth. Another clotting factor known as prothrombin is present in amounts only about 30 percent of normal on the third day but on the eighth day is higher than at any other time in the child’s life​—as much as 110 percent of normal. So, following Jehovah’s instructions would help to avoid the danger of hemorrhage. As Dr. S. I. McMillen observes: “From a consideration of vitamin K and prothrombin determinations the perfect day to perform a circumcision is the eighth day . . . [the] day picked by the Creator of vitamin K.”​—None of These Diseases, 1986, p. 21.
  
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  ANNUAL MEETING PART 3: TONY MORRIS: WORST FAMILY REUNIONS EVER

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/ghxur51fm_g.

  tony morris proves how poor bible researcher he is with this talk about awkward family reunions in the resurrection.in this video i explore his claims and test them again other bible verses.

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  Whenever they talk about families coming together in the resurrection, they forget it will be the new system. They still are thinking old system. They think that their lives will continue as they were but it will be all different.
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  Next time a jw says "the end is sooo close now"

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  say this.

  with what's going on the world does it look like they are going to proclaim peace and security anytime soon?!

  or was the organization wrong again about the end times?.

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  There won't be any proclamation of peace and security because that is being misinterpreted.

  And other than in Ukraine, there is peace.
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  Are YOU saved?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sadly today, many churches and religious organisations teach their followers that they are saved based on something the bible does not record.

  many people are following a lie, and are heading to a lost eternity and do not know it.. my question here is... are you saved?

  it's vitally important to know!.

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  The question should be 'Saved from what?'