Posts by Rattigan350

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Submission and stupid rules

by Lady Lee in

what a load of crap this stupid belief was.

i'll give you a couple of examples.

i was the sign language interpreter for our congregation and there was about 15-20 deaf who regularly showed up.

Rattigan350

Yes, it’s true about men and how frequently they think about sex. When I was younger I had asked a boyfriend how often he thought about sex. His answer shocked me. Like you, I would not want to have their ‘anatomy’ and constantly distracting thoughts.

Since the purpose of life is to create more life - Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth. Men are just doing what we were made to do. I don't understand what women think about all of the time if not to become mothers and fulfill their roles.

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No Private Beliefs Allowed!

by BereanThinker7 in

looking for references that talk about witnesses not being able to hold any private interpretation or belief that isn't in line with official doctrine.

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i know i've seen them before but of course now i can't find any of the more in your face statements..

Rattigan350

I have a problem with the phrase people will use

"Do you know more than the governing body?"

Why place a limit on what we are to know?

Isn't a teacher supposed to teach the students more than what the teacher knows?

And it's not that the governing body knows more than than anyone else. It's that they have the power over the people.

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Is The watchtower Dishonest When It comes to the Trinity?

by RevFrank in

in 1989 the watchtower society published a 32-page booklet entitled "should you believe in the trinity?

" the aim of this publication was to discredit the christian doctrine of the triune nature of god.

the method that the society used to accomplish this goal was to quote from a plethora of resources, both secular and religious, such as dictionaries, encyclopedias, books and historical literature written by individual authors.

Rattigan350

Why would I care about any of those quotes that the OP made?

The trinity is just not possible regardless of what anyone back then said.

People say that Jesus is or was God but they forget that The reason Jesus came to the earth was to be a perfect sacrifice and a perfect priest to offer it.

To teach people that reason Jehovah gave Israel a lesson for 1500 years by having them build a temple and offer sacrifices to show how it would work and why they would need that. This is a much better lesson than what any of the apostles wrote.

God gave his son to be a sacrifice; a replacement for the bulls and goats. The sacrifice is or was not God since God was the one that accepted the sacrifice. And under no temple arrangement, whether preChristian, Christian or pagan has God ever acted as his own high priest.

Disproving the trinity is that simple.

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What Will JW's Do If They Find Themselves Still Conscious after Death?

by Sea Breeze in

we all know that despite many scriptures to the contrary, jw's believe that when they die, their consciousness will cease.

my question is this: what will be the likely reaction of jw's if they find themselves conscious after death?.

Rattigan350

If they are conscious, then they are not dead.

A person can not be called Dead and still yet be alive.

Seabreeze is confused with those scriptures listed about lake of fire, Rich man and Lazarus. As it was said, No one is punished for eternity consciously for 840 months of life.

People are dead, until the resurrection.

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Scriptures That Bothered You as a JW Kid.

by Sea Breeze in

my big one was: .

rev.

20: 5 "but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

Rattigan350

"Some miserable bald 'prophet' that got bears to brutally murder children because he had hurty feelings."

That never bothered me. I thought that was cool. Got to teach those brats.

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What Is happening to watchtower This days?

by Hellothere in

i'm a believer.

believe in blessed or cursed.

what is happening to watchtower is my question.

Rattigan350

The JW brochure is not for the public ministry. It is for those who ask about JW beliefs and practices.

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Scriptures That Bothered You as a JW Kid.

by Sea Breeze in

my big one was: .

rev.

20: 5 "but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

Rattigan350

"Rev. 20: 5 "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.""

I asked the person studying with me about this.

It means that the people won't be fully perfect and sinless until the end of the 1000 years. They will be 'dead' as in having some sin, until the end of the 1000 years.

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Most children of Jehovah's Witnesses followers in Japan have been whipped, survey shows

by Rattigan350 in

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/03/15/national/jehovahs-witnesses-whipping/.

the most cited reason was “napping or talking during congregations.” others included “answering back to parents” and “playing with a schoolmate.”.

some respondents said they have been suffering depression as a result of whipping.. “i still cannot forget the sight of children screaming after they were taken into a large room at a congregation when i was a child,” a 44-year-old victim said, stressing that jehovah’s witnesses should reflect on what followers have done.. in february, a group of lawyers started supporting those second-generation followers.. in a statement issued on march 1, the japanese branch of jehovah’s witness said it does not accept child abuse.. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230315/p2a/00m/0na/006000c.

Rattigan350

I would have said that it was good that kids get a whooping as the problem with kids and young adults and even adults todays is that they didn't get the discipline as children.

But disciplining because they sleep during meetings or assemblies and playing with non-Witness kids is wrong.

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Most children of Jehovah's Witnesses followers in Japan have been whipped, survey shows

by Rattigan350 in

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/03/15/national/jehovahs-witnesses-whipping/.

the most cited reason was “napping or talking during congregations.” others included “answering back to parents” and “playing with a schoolmate.”.

some respondents said they have been suffering depression as a result of whipping.. “i still cannot forget the sight of children screaming after they were taken into a large room at a congregation when i was a child,” a 44-year-old victim said, stressing that jehovah’s witnesses should reflect on what followers have done.. in february, a group of lawyers started supporting those second-generation followers.. in a statement issued on march 1, the japanese branch of jehovah’s witness said it does not accept child abuse.. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230315/p2a/00m/0na/006000c.

Rattigan350

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/03/15/national/jehovahs-witnesses-whipping/

The most cited reason was “napping or talking during congregations.” Others included “answering back to parents” and “playing with a schoolmate.”

Some respondents said they have been suffering depression as a result of whipping.

“I still cannot forget the sight of children screaming after they were taken into a large room at a congregation when I was a child,” a 44-year-old victim said, stressing that Jehovah’s Witnesses should reflect on what followers have done.

In February, a group of lawyers started supporting those second-generation followers.

In a statement issued on March 1, the Japanese branch of Jehovah’s Witness said it does not accept child abuse.

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230315/p2a/00m/0na/006000c

https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2023031401012/

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GB Update - Meet the new GB members

by eyeslice in

jw
friends

i overheard my wife listening to '2023 governing body update #2, presented by kenneth cook jnr.

a few points i got from it.. new hour requirements.

quote "with the new hour requirements for pioneers, many us us can share in the pioneer work.

Rattigan350

The thing that I've been noticing more lately is on the videos and the conventions and ones giving talks are using their phones and tablets to read scriptures. No one actually holds a book anymore.

Remember back in the 90s and 2000s when there was a Question box against the printing out of scriptures and taking them to the meetings because it is a better example to hold a Bible and be able to turn pages and find scriptures.