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  Is Disfellowshipping properly legislated?

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the insight book under expelling, it refers to 1 cor 5 and titus 3 and 2 thess 3 as the basis for disfellowshipping.they've often said that the governing body was stated in acts 15 of the apostles and older men.

  however, why was there no decree or letter issued by the governing body or apostles and older men and sent out to the congregations, detailing the principles of disfellowshipping?

  it is all paul.

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  The reason that the organization has the shunning policy is to put a wall around the people in the congregation to control the information that they get.

  My query was that it is odd how people follow the apostles or letters from them when they are no different than a circuit or district overseer, or a Bethel Elder giving a letter or talk. The letters in the Bible were not outlines or manuscripts written and approved by the governing body, faithful slaves and then distributed to all the congregations. It's not like the organization policy today. People like to look to the ones that have been called Saints with reverence.
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  Is Disfellowshipping properly legislated?

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the insight book under expelling, it refers to 1 cor 5 and titus 3 and 2 thess 3 as the basis for disfellowshipping.they've often said that the governing body was stated in acts 15 of the apostles and older men.

  however, why was there no decree or letter issued by the governing body or apostles and older men and sent out to the congregations, detailing the principles of disfellowshipping?

  it is all paul.

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  In the Insight Book under Expelling, it refers to 1 Cor 5 and Titus 3 and 2 Thess 3 as the basis for Disfellowshipping.
  They've often said that the governing body was stated in Acts 15 of the Apostles and older men. However, why was there no decree or letter issued by the Governing Body or Apostles and Older men and sent out to the congregations, detailing the principles of disfellowshipping? It is all Paul. I mean, if Chief Justice John Roberts speaks to a group and makes statements, those are not law or rules. It is considered his opinion. It is only when a quorum of the court makes a decision and issues an opinion is it law.So, why is a doctrine and procedure created based on only what Paul said?
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  The Last Days of a Pioneer

  by madisoncembre in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am starting a new topic since this blog entry is about something different.. i have posted before about my recent split with the jws.

  no exit comes out of nowhere and there were seeds planted long before this.

  i have never enjoyed field service.

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  I pioneered back in the late 80s, early 90s because the organization was growing, flourishing. The fulfillment of expectations was yet ahead. The anointed number was going down & 1914 + 80 was yet ahead. There was plenty of spiritual food and the meetings and assemblies to invite people to. The DOs and COs were good and respected. The governing body back then meant something. They went back to the 1920s and even 1914. They had history.

  Now a days there is none of that.
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  The Last Days of a Pioneer

  by madisoncembre in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am starting a new topic since this blog entry is about something different.. i have posted before about my recent split with the jws.

  no exit comes out of nowhere and there were seeds planted long before this.

  i have never enjoyed field service.

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  The only thing that I liked about field service was the indepth stuff. Arguing the trinity and who go to heaven and other doctrinal material. I never wanted a Bible study because I can't imagine myself sitting across from someone and telling them to read this paragraph and then to answer this question, and then to tell them how to live their lives and then having them do the questions for baptism.

  About 10 years ago I just stopped doing it because I just don't care about these random people we are meeting at the doors.
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  American Healthcare: How your system works

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. current

  canada has universal healthcare.

  the consensus is that america never will.

  can anyone explain why, please?

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  The problem with universal health care is that there is no money in it or for it.

  So it runs slowly.

  And it is rife for abuse. If anyone can go in and get free healthcare, what reason would they have to take care of themselves?
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  Regional Convention Attendance

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  elder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).

  he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.

  co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.

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  These are not Regional or District conventions.

  They are 3 day circuit assemblies. They are using Assembly Halls and small city centers city arenas and not big stadiums. It's all about cost savings.
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  We are now 23 Years past Armageddon as the GB stated

  by JohnTron7 in

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  2. experiences

  so the end was going to come by 2000 as documented in the magazines back in the late 80's early 90's.. so how did they get the time off so badly ( over two decades and still nothing) since the gb is jehovah's earthly mouthpiece right ?

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  The end was never forecast in 1914, 1925, 1975 or 2000.
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  Zoom- CO's were told to tell elders/ms not to be on it unless you have a reason PERIOD!

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from reddit exjw.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/143556c/co_meeting_with_elders_gb_seems_desperate/.

  pretty much what other appointed men have been telling me.

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  So they want to just cut off people from the meetings?
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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  I agree that carbon dating is BS. Scientists will just grab on to anything to support their atheism.
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  Is 1914 still a major belief in JW land ? Or has it been abandoned ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just wonder about this topic as it is now 109 years since that date and what was expected to take place has never happened ..

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  "How can we prove the Messianic kingdom was set up in heaven in 1914?"

  Jesus gave a sign in Matt 24 & 25.