Posts by Rattigan350

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

@Seabreeze "You do realize that Watchtower has indoctrinated you don't you? There are lots of dead people are in heaven. I'm going there when I die."

No, the Watchtower has no indoctrinated me. No one had one that to me.

I understand how things work.

There are no dead in heaven. There are humans who have died and then were raised as spirit beings who are now alive in heaven serving with Jesus. But you won't be one of them.

What Paul wrote in 2 Cor 5 is not factual. It is just an example of his appeasing his readers with flowery language that made them feel good. Heaven is not home for anyone. It is not home, it is the office. It is where people work, to do a job. While he and his audience of Corinthians will be raised to heaven, you can't assume that you are part of that audience. Remember that Paul didn't know that the number going to heaven would be capped at 144,000.

Also what was said in Rev 6 was in signs and symbols. It's not real.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

Duran asked "So, if you believe the resurrection has already occurred, then does that mean that you believe the 'last day' has come and the 'last trumpet' has blown?"

The first resurrection of the anointed who have died as already occurred.

What Martha mentioned about rising in the last days or actually being raised in the last days, was the resurrection to the earth. Her knowledge and understand was limited and vague, considering that the Sadducees were some of the teachers.

Paul's understanding was also limited because he was piecing things together too.

Stop relying on what people in the Bible said or wrote and understand the mechanics of the process itself.

It's simple. When Jesus became king, he resurrected the anointed who are already dead. Then during his time in the kingdom, as the anointed died they were instantly raised to heaven.
Then at the time of Rev 20:13 the resurrection to life on earth will begin and continue over the 1000 years and then what people will do matters.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

Seabreeze said "The dead in heaven are awaiting a resurrection. 2 Corinthians 5:8, which suggests believers are "away from the body and at home with the Lord"."

There are no dead in heaven. Any in heaven are alive.

Here is how it works. Everyone who has died since Abel is in Sheol/hades/hell aka the grave. Since the time of Pentecost, Christians started getting anointed with holy spirit. When they died they were still dead. When Jesus became king, he cleansed the heavens as John 14:2-6 (prepared a place for the apostles) and Rev 12 says casting out Satan from the heavens. Then those dead in Christ were raised to heaven. Then after that time, any anointed left, when they died were instantly raised to heaven.

As for 2 Cor 5. It says "For we know that" Who is that 'we'? Paul and the Corinthians. Not you or anyone in this century.

vs 5 "Now the one who prepared us for this very thing is God, who gave us the spirit as a token of what is to come" That token is the holy spirit that they were anointed with. That 'us' is Paul and the Corinthians as they were anointed with the holy spirit.

vs 8 "But we are of good courage and would prefer to be absent from the body and to make our home with the Lord" So it is what they would prefer. That is not us today.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

"This JW elder lost his life because of the ban on organ transplants"

It was still a choice that he made. He could have chosen to get the transplant.

Remember that health decisions and issues are private. The congregation has no business knowing such things.

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God’s wisdom in allowing bearded JWs July 25 Watchtower

by Listener in

the july 2025 watchtower has a paragraph that claims that it was the superior power and wisdom of jehovah that guided the gb into allowing jws to grow beards.. the study article is ‘can you still learn from basic bible teachings?’ under the subheading ‘jehovah is the creator’ paragraph 7 states-.

“ 7. what did rahela do to accept a change in direction?.

your answer.

Rattigan350

Shaving everyday is just part of basic hygiene like brushing one's teeth and putting on deodorant.

Wearing beards are just a sign of the laziness and rebelliousness of the people today.

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Sisters can now wear pants. Any more important changes

by Witness 007 in

alot of my witness friends were excited sisters can now wear pants and you can say hi to disfellowshiped folks but what about important stuff child molesters in the congregation you need 2 witnesses blood fractions are fine but not whole blood????

607 bce is from the 1880s wrong....anything else?

Rattigan350

You all are so mistaken.

What does celebrating wedding anniversaries and having baby showers have to do with celebrating birthdays? Wedding anniversaries are to celebrate an accomplishment as what celebrations are for. Celebrating the anniversary of one's birth is not an accomplishment. Especially for children.

It is just an excuse to have a party. And a foolish excuse when people spend hundreds of dollars on it.

"The ‘gentle times’ was a period of 42 months during which the ‘holy city’ was ‘trampled’"

No, that is not the gentile times. You didn't consider that Nathan told David that his offspring would sit on Jehovah's throne forever. But that ended when Jehoiakim lost that sovereignty. To not have that prophesy fail, Jehovah paused that for 2520 years. The Gentile times is from when it was paused until it stopped and Jesus became king because he didn't become king when he was on earth. It's that simple.

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1975 debacle

by Gman2001 in

did the borg ever apologize for 1975?.

Rattigan350

There is nothing to apologize for.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

"How will it look if they finally say that they were wrong about transfusions? It has literally been a life and death issue for decades now, and the backlash would probably go mainstream. And I would imagine that at least a few people would sue them, which would definitely get them more attention of the type they do not want. The blood issue is a minefield for them."

Exactly. If they can figure how to remove the no blood issue without this happening, then it will be gone.

So the problem is the critics preventing them to do that, not the GB itself.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

"They haven't retracted a damned thing! The blood doctrine as it was a quarter of a century ago is still firmly in place. All fractions, no parts, no whole blood"

You and they are missing something here. If transfusions are against God's law, what is the punishment for violating it? Has anyone who had a transfusion gotten leopresy? struck by lightning? Had the ground open and swallow them? Not that I've heard.

So there is no punishment. Those ones live and they die and are in hell/hades/sheol/grave like everyone else who has died. They will be resurrected just like everyone else will.

The living worry about the resurrection but the dead don't.

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Memorial talk the SAME EVERY YEAR no anointed??

by Witness 007 in

yeah so got invited this year and just thought what a waste of my time no one partakes in the wine or bread the talk has been the same for 20 years i would rather stay home.

Rattigan350

"the Bible clearly instructs to do this ‘whenever’ two or more followers of Christ come together for worship. If you are a Christian, you should partake whenever you worship in a group."

No, Jesus did not instruct us to come together and do the bread and wine. He told the 11 apostles to keep doing that in remembrance of him. Because that is all that they had. Memories of him. They did not have the 4 biographies of jesus.

We on the other hand do not have memories of Jesus, but we have 4 biographies of him. So in remembrance of him, we don't do the bread and wine; we reread the 4 biographies of him.

The anointed don't go to heaven. Since it is post Jesus being king, as 1 Thess 4 says, when they die, they instantly get raised to heaven. Going to heaven is not the best thing possible. It is a job, not a resort.

They are kings and priests with Jesus.