Again it would come down to what ever your concience told you. Do you think anyone knows for sure when that point is in each individual case? I don't.
TimB
we all know the jw view of abortion before leaving but what about now?
how have your views changed?
i used to secretly cheer when i heard that women had gained more rights concerning abortions.
Again it would come down to what ever your concience told you. Do you think anyone knows for sure when that point is in each individual case? I don't.
TimB
we all know the jw view of abortion before leaving but what about now?
how have your views changed?
i used to secretly cheer when i heard that women had gained more rights concerning abortions.
That actually was my question Mega. But I don't mind answering. If it were me pregnant I would say the same thing Shecky said. But I think that the real definition belongs to the concience of the woman.
TimB
in the "christmas" thread, aroarer asked this:.
: ...have researched christmas in a new way and have come to realize it is not as evil as wt teaches.
the real ugliness is the wt.
Farkel,
You mirrored the memories of my childhood. Thank you. Although these memories may be somewhat painfull the knowledge that these experiences are what make us who we are and that they have made us stronger offer limited comfort.
TimB
we all know the jw view of abortion before leaving but what about now?
how have your views changed?
i used to secretly cheer when i heard that women had gained more rights concerning abortions.
Somehow Skimmer, I don't quite agree with you that slavery and abortions are the same type of arguement.
TimB
we all know the jw view of abortion before leaving but what about now?
how have your views changed?
i used to secretly cheer when i heard that women had gained more rights concerning abortions.
We all know the JW view of abortion before leaving but what about now? How have your views changed?
I used to secretly cheer when I heard that women had gained more rights concerning abortions. I now don't have to do it secretly. I don't take the subject lightly but I do believe that it is the choice of the woman.
At what point does the fetus have "LIFE"?
I understand if you hesitate to comment on this issue. It is a discussion that could be inflamitory. People can be very judgemental on this subject. But from what I've seen so far, this group can handle it.
TimB
i've been a part of this forum for about one month, and during that time i've been struck by the willingness of many so former jehovah witnesses either to ridicule the bible, or to stand by while it's being ridiculed.
so, i'm wondering how many of them while witnesses suffered through experiences so searing that they no longer believe in the god of the old testament.. who among you still believe that underneath the layers of contradictions, inconsistencies, and errors in the bible there may be found the words of a god who created the universe, and who also cares about you, personally?.
joseph f. alward.
Not a God but a goddess cares for me. The Goddess Xena. I kneel before her every night. I give her oral tribute. She takes me into her wings and comforts me. I worship on her sacred mounds. I could go on but I think you get the idea.
An intangible god who lives everywhere who watches and decides when he wants to help? No way!
TimB
just curious,.
do women still go for the tough guy image.
just a little bit scary but the kind of man that other men move aside for.
Thanks Fine,
I did read that thread but it was talking more about the body features. I am talking more about the attitude and image. Also, that thread had the feeling of what kind of person would you like to be with on a more permenant basis. I just want to know what really turns women on.
Sorry ladies. This subject does not exactly lend it self to the bi side. Or does it??
TimB
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/18/nhs118.xml&ssh%20eet=/news/2001/11/18/ixhome.html .
ultrasound 'melts' away fat without surgery or dieting .
by lorraine fraser, medical correspondent.
This procedure and the fact that they are testing it on pigs gives new meening to the phase "Pigging Out". LOL
TimB
just curious,.
do women still go for the tough guy image.
just a little bit scary but the kind of man that other men move aside for.
Just curious,
Do women still go for the tough guy image. Just a little bit scary but the kind of man that other men move aside for. Or do women these days like the sensitive guy with a tattoo. Or the pretty boy with a sense of humor. Now I'm not talking about the kind of guy that they would like to settle down with. I mean the kind of guy that makes their heart rate speed up when he walks into the room.
Be honest now!
TimB
well, get ready to be shocked at the audacity!.
we have family who came in from costa rica today.
a cousin and his girlfriend.
Blue,
I value your thoughts. But keep in mind that you don't actually have to have a hard and fast set of rules to be under the influence of a cult. That's the real nature of a cult. People keep an eye on each other. When I was coming up, no "good" witness would be caught with a Judas Priest album. Were there any specific rules that said that you could not listen to Judas Priest? No. The effect is the same though because of the peer pressure and the need to be in God's favor and the Organizations favor. I personally felt a lot of pain for doing what I thought was the right thing when I shunned my brother. Probably not as much pain as him, but I do remember I cried a lot which is not normal for an 18 yr old boy. The best thing we can do with these people is feel pity and try to open their minds to the rest of the world.
I commend and admire you for the way that you handled the situation. You did not lash out on your sister personally. You became the better person. This stratagy could eventually soften your sister. I know that right now getting your sister out of the Borg may not be your first priority because of the pain she has caused you. But just imagine the difference in her personality if she was not a witness. The need to feel hatred for anyone who is different is something that we were taught as witnesses. It is hard to shake that mentality especially when we go to another religion that thinks that they have all the answers.
I am not saying that some do not step over the line and do more hurtful things than what the Society teaches. Those people should be viewed as the scum that they are. Just like the coulple that beat their 12 yr old to death.
I hope that one day you and your sister can look back on this experience and laugh.
Tim B