If science requires naturalism as an assumption in order to function properly then isn't it simply a case of circular reasoning?
Has this question by Slimboy been addressed?
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Evolution is Crap, there I said it!
by Crazyguy inok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.
the theory of major evolution is crap!
the theory is falling apart.
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On this day in history (7/1/1879)
by theron ware in1879 american evangelist charles taze russell published the first issue of the watchtower, the most widely circulated magazine in the world.. .
(from today's wikipedia.org main page).
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How many fish have been wrapped around in watchtower pages over the last 134 years?
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Our Blondie Has A Torn Memiscus.
by LoisLane looking for Superman inblondie posted her watchtower comments for today and her last paragraph was asking for help, suggestions.
she is in pain from her knee injury, is on steroids and possibly going to have surgery.. she is asking if anyone here, has had the same problem, and if so, what did they do and how was the outcome?.
just lois.
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I hope you get better soon, Blondie. Do not put strain on that leg, rest rest rest and put ice packs on it. The swelling on the inner soft parts must go away, then the pain will subside.
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Do beleivers have a problem with GODS silence in this technological/communication age ? and if not why not ? ?
by smiddy inwhy would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
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Jgnat,
A few times the Scriptures mention God "turning his attention to" something or "remembering" someone. Since God, in principle, isn't distracted or suffers from memory shortage, that may mean he was absent or busy with something else.
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Do beleivers have a problem with GODS silence in this technological/communication age ? and if not why not ? ?
by smiddy inwhy would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
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Dawkins tries to conceal the obvious social darwinist latent within him (in The Selfish Gene) by telling endearing stories about animal moms who sacrifice themselves because they know that at least 50% of their genes will survive if their pups live as a result of her sacrifice. Naturally, Dawkins fails to explain how can a gene gain consciousness of itself to the point of making rational choices.
Also, it's not intellectually honest to point the finger at christianity for the crusades and the inquisition, and turn a blind eye at social darwinism, as if it never had happened, and wasn't the justification for imperiallism, fascism, nazism, eugenics, etc
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Do beleivers have a problem with GODS silence in this technological/communication age ? and if not why not ? ?
by smiddy inwhy would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
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Jgnat, glad you brought us back to the topic.
Who says that Christianism hasn't changed the paradigm by which God relates himself with mankind? To the point that no more prophets, no more revelations, no more miraculous interventions are needed? It's a distinct possibility.
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Do beleivers have a problem with GODS silence in this technological/communication age ? and if not why not ? ?
by smiddy inwhy would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
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You must really wait for my next installment on that series of articles, cofty. You may be surprised. As I told you long ago, it's not a closed series of articles yet. I misplaced my notes on the next article I was writing and went through a mild depression, and so it took me a long time to go back to the subject. but it's not forgotten.
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Do beleivers have a problem with GODS silence in this technological/communication age ? and if not why not ? ?
by smiddy inwhy would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
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The argument of the redundancy of God (God isn't necessary for life to have evolved from non-life, therefore, the idea of God may be discarded), reminds me of a friend couple that has four children.
Considering that the objective of a species is to perpetuate itself, then 2 children would perpetuate a breeding couple. If the species has the objective to achieve a marginal growth on each new generation, then one may consider the third child. But the fourth child is objectively redundant for the two objectives outlined before. Does that mean the fourth child is expendable? I know, this is some kind of strawman argument; but nevertheless, i would like to see how you would justify keeping the fourth child once established its unecessity and redundance.
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Do beleivers have a problem with GODS silence in this technological/communication age ? and if not why not ? ?
by smiddy inwhy would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
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So we may agree on something ... I may believe accept an evolution that doesn't disprove God and you may believe accept an evolution that doesn't need God.
Are we good?
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Do beleivers have a problem with GODS silence in this technological/communication age ? and if not why not ? ?
by smiddy inwhy would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
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Did i say evolution needed my approval? I'm actually willing to accept evolution - just not an evolution that rules out the existence of God, because that argument is dishonest. See how magnanimous I'm feeling lately ...
And you may now apologize.
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