Thank you Pterist.
I don't know what just happened to my eyes, but went through many exams and they couldn't find anything wrong and in the meantime it slowly fixed itself. Scary.
Eden
EdenOne
JoinedPosts by EdenOne
-
226
You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
-
-
-
226
You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
-
-
EdenOne
This is the reason why I think that Agnosticism and Apatheism make theoretical sense, whereas pure atheism doesn't make sense, as is as devoided of empirical evidence just as much as the theism it attempts to disprove.
Another thing that causes me to cringe is that most atheists insist that atheism is rooted in 'good' science, whereas theism is either rooted in simple mythology or 'poor' science.
Eden
-
226
You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
-
-
EdenOne
If atheists would discuss things with theists in terms of "You believe in something for which there is no lab-tested empirical evidence of, therefore, your belief lacks scientific support ..." but they don't. Often the case is of "You're a poor deluded ignorant for believing in such a fabrication called [deity's name]". That's where the discussion derails. Many atheists (not all, sure) look down on believers, because they consider them intellectually challenged somehow and, having rationallity as their own criteria, judge the theists as little children with underdevelopted rational abilities who need to be saved from their delusions of God.
Eden
-
226
You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
-
-
EdenOne
Posting with a lot of difficulty as my pupils have been dilated due to an urgency medical procedure, but here goes, sorry for mistakes:
[atheists] do not claim to know the absolute 'truth'
I can't remember who posted this about two pages ago, but I must disagree. While this is true when atheists are talking about scientific knowledge - it's actually a premise that such knowledge is never complete - atheists often claim that God's inexistence is a definite and absolute truth. And they can be just as dogmatic and fundamentlst and proselyting about that notion just as any radical theist.
Eden
-
111
What's your Myers-Briggs?
by Londo111 ini am infp.. some former witnesses in my hometown had a meetup last night...alas, only four of us.
but it turned out we had an infp(me), two infjs, and an enfp.
therefore, it turned out we were all idealists.
-
-
EdenOne
INTP here. I also find personality tests fun, and the results of this one, at least in my case, are fairly accurate.
Eden
-
52
When did the Last Days start in the first century
by wizzstick ini've been reading coc and rf highlights that luke 21:28 says: "but as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.".
i'm thinking on how no one who saw the start of these things is alive from 1914. as a comparison point, does anyone know when the wt suggests the last days started in the first century?.
was it when jesus said the above?.
-
-
EdenOne
My belief is that the "last days" started as soon as Jesus went back to heavens. When the pouring of the Holy Spirit took place in Pentecost 33 CE, Peter quoted Joel 2:28, that speaks of the "last days" and told the crowd gathered that what just happenned was the fulfillment of that prophecy. Hence, the "last days" stretched from 33 CE until 70 CE, about 37 years, which, by the way, accomodates comfortably the notion of a "generation".
Eden
-
226
You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
-
-
EdenOne
Still thinking,
I made that remark based on FlyingHighNow's post on page 1 of this thread, that read in part:
2. Witnesses can lack manners and tact when expressing their beliefs. They can speak to others of differing beliefs as if the others are idiots. When some of them leave, they carry that kind of approach with them.
Then slimboy and Cofty went into an exchange of words regarding the paths taken after leaving JW's. Then I make my comment regarding FHN's post, which I believed illustrated the point as observed in the previous exchange of words. I didn't point my finger at any individual in particular, which is what ad hominem attack would be. Cofty took it personally, but for example Cantleave, another participant on this thread who chose atheism, didn't.
Eden
-
226
You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
-
-
EdenOne
Well, I have no "method", sorry to say. I just publish the result of what I research. I've extended invitations for external collaborations already, even with people that I know who don't always agree with me, but whose research I have respect for. I wasn't the one who brought my website into this discussion to start with, remember?
I really don't want to turn this into a personal argueing made in public either, so i stop here, Cofty.
Eden
-
226
You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
-
-
EdenOne
Sure, Cofty.
This from the man who is busy starting a new religion that is 99.9% JW theology.
In another thread a week ago you made the same false blanket statement and i took the effort to counter your remarks one by one.
Not only your statement about the quantity of 'JW theology' isn't an innocent innacurate remark - it's an attempt to bind my beliefs to the Watchtower, with an implication that I'm a WT apologist, which, as you well know, is very disliked around here; then you state that I'm 'busy' starting a 'new religion' - when it's perfectly stated in the website's mission statement that 'this is a bible study group that cannot offer religious services and doesn't require interested ones to leave their current churches in order to participate'. And then you attribute that specifically to "the man who...". If this isn't an ad hominem attack, then please enlighten me of what is one.
Eden
-
226
You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
-
-
EdenOne
Simon, if that's the case, then we have a stand-off at best.
Science cannot prove that God is inexistent ; Theism cannot prove that God exists.
Therefore I would also say that atheism also relies on an impossibility of proving a negative as well. I feel that agnosticism and apatheism make a lot more sense than atheism.
Eden