Thank you for sharing your experience.
Eden
i first posted here on 3rd june 2008. at the time i was an elder, appointed the previous october, i was 36 and i was a born-in.
at the time i'd become disillusioned with the society due to the governing body's letter explaining why the book study in private homes was being abolished.
april 2008 saw me start questioning this decision, privately of course, and this eventually led me to this site, to jwfacts and to many youtube videos, all of which began to errode my faith in the leaders of the organisation.. in july 2008, having discussed my doubts with my wife, i attended the district convention, deciding to give the society one last chance to convince me it was the truth.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Eden
hi, i am also a practicing jehovah's witness and very proud of it,to say the very-very least..!
i am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of jehovah god in england.. this important letter is personally to you, just as many of the bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by you the reader.
i am writing to you to urge you to take stock of your life, think what your future holds for you.
Sad ... And to think that most of us, at some point, were in a similar judgemental, arrogant mindset ... It's embarassing.
thank you for reminding us all what we don't want to go back to.
Eden
never was a jw, but been here long enough to have made some friends and respect opinions.. retired in 2004, lived in cyprus 2005-2010. back here in wales since then.. just back from a holiday in france (most recent of many).
love the country, the lifestyle, can get by in the language.. just seen an advert for a country estate (british-owned) they want someone to live on site, do a bit of handyman stuff, etc., look after (mainly brit) holiday visitors in return for zero rent (only utitlties).
family would be abe to come and stay for free.
Try Portugal ... ;)
Eden
i struggled as a jw to accept that the good news of the kingdom was ever going to be preached in all the inhabited world by jws, as there were many parts of the world with few to no jws.
there are not enough to cover the 3 billion plus people in asia to allow everyone to get a chance to hear the message.
it also was offensive to me that jehovah would kill those billions that had never had a chance to accept the watchtower message.
... The gloomy logical conclusion to Matthew 24:14 is "... And then The end will come"
If the prophecy is fulfilled by jw.org , then The only thing to look forward to is "the end", Armaggedon. When it becomes obvious that the "good news", by means of The website, have reached "all inhabited earth", and the wait for the "big A" becomes awkward, I wonder if The JW's will either start interpreting The nature of the Armaggedon differently, or will they be tempted to cause an Armaggedon themselves, to vindicate their apocalyptic vision.
Eden
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.
"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.
another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.
I often have conversations with some of my north american clients about this firearm issue, and they are split over it. Liberals are against it, conservatives try to cling on to every stupid excuse to justify it. (Such as: "We need the guns should the need to fight the government arises".WTF??) I just can't understand how a sane parent can allow a small child near a deadly gun. It's beyond stupid. It's beyond negligent. It's criminal.
Eden
i love to read the watchtower's article "the church fathersadvocates of bible truth?
" (w01 4/15 pp.
there we may read the most contadictory statements of the watchtower society, which shows how deceptive and ignorant is the jehovah's witnesses religion.. .
marked. Great OP.
Eden
km august 2014, page 3 paragraph 6(article for this week's service meeting):.
"the month of october 2014 will see the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the kingdom.
for this occasion a special edition of the watchtower will be on this theme.".
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i happened to come across a new (2008) theory on the evolution of live, by a biologist named eugene m. mccarthy.
he describes his new approach as stabilization theory.
i haven't read into it in depht, so i cannot make any informed comments so far.. this is his website: www.macroevolution.net.
Quote from the introduction of "On the Origins of New Forms of Life - A New Theory", by Eugene M. McCarthy
"How does evolution occur? — That is, what natural processes bring new types of organisms into being? Expressed more technically, one might ask, what are the genetic processes that have produced the various forms scientists recognize and assign scientific names? This is the question considered in this book. Certainly, there is a great mass of literature already available on this topic. But my own, more than 20-year investigation of that literature has convinced me that certain widely accepted claims about the nature of evolutionary processes represent little more than unsubstantiated dogma, as unsupported by replicable experiment as the events described in Genesis.
I readily admit that many of the claims made by my fellow evolutionary biologists are in fact correct and entirely reasonable. But some are inconsistent with fact and, in my opinion, the corresponding aspects of evolutionary theory need adjustment. The theory of evolution should conform to the facts of evolution. By collecting all the relevant facts together here, I hope to lead you to the same conclusion. It remains true, as R. S. Crane liked to say, that "there is no authority but evidence." In this book I have gathered evidence of all sorts that seemed to have any direct bearing on the question at hand. Moreover, I have tried to present that evidence in such a way that a non-biologist can understand it, so long as he or she reads this book in the order it is written. For the issues considered here are of vital concern, not only to the few people who call themselves evolutionary biologists, but also to all humanity.
For the last 150 years, we biologists have been defending a fortress built by Charles Darwin. We have spent our energies hurling back the assaults of the creationist infidels and shoring up a slowly crumbling foundation that once seemed based on the hard bedrock of direct observation. But an ocean of data, accumulating since 1859, has been slowly lapping away at the rotting stone beneath Darwin’s castle, undermining its moldering walls, making it an ever more dangerous place to reside. As Darwin's most eloquent proponent, T. H. Huxley, once said, "Every great truth begins as heresy and ends as superstition." In the case of evolutionary theory, Huxley appears to have been right. Facts presented in this book do indeed suggest that certain elements of Darwin's heresy can now best be interpreted as a kind of superstition. It was Huxley, too, who warned us not to "pretend that conclusions are certain which are not demonstrated or demonstrable." I will argue that certain important tenets of modern evolutionary theory actually do fall into this category.
I want to present the facts that compelled me to abandon my former ideas of how evolution occurs. As we shall see, a different account of the evolutionary process is far easier to defend on an evidentiary basis than is the one given by most biology texts. According to this alternative view, what we may term stabilization theory, certain genetic processes known to disrupt the normal reproductive cycle are the typical source of new types of organisms (a variety of these stabilization processes are described in Chapter Four). Although stabilization theory is a new explanation as a whole, its intellectual components have a long tradition in biological thought and all the phenomena it invokes are all well known and well documented.Presenting those components, providing examples of the phenomena involved, and discussing the relevant aspects of the history of biology, will require all the chapters of this book. But, I suspect many readers will have a very different idea of the nature of evolution by the time they've reached its end. " [....]
You can read the entire paper here. [pdf]
One question that comes to my mind is: This theory doesn't seek to explain how initially life came to be; it attempts to explain how new types of organisms come to existence, presumably always from a previous form of life. So how does he propose that life has begun?
Eden
i happened to come across a new (2008) theory on the evolution of live, by a biologist named eugene m. mccarthy.
he describes his new approach as stabilization theory.
i haven't read into it in depht, so i cannot make any informed comments so far.. this is his website: www.macroevolution.net.
I happened to come across a new (2008) theory on the evolution of live, by a biologist named Eugene M. McCarthy. He describes his new approach as Stabilization Theory. I haven't read into it in depht, so I cannot make any informed comments so far.
This is his website: www.macroevolution.net
His main point seems to be that the darwinian approach to evolution taking place as small genetic mutations isn't consistent with the paleontological facts; evolution is better understood in terms of hybridization of species.
Comments?
Eden
the theocratic life and times of theodore jaracz .
by barbara anderson.
[we are doing a special focus on the dark side of brooklyn bethel for a couple of weeks over at freeminds.org].
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