All I will say for now is that this is all the more surprising as the "close person" I have mentioned before that turned me in to the elders was precisely my wife.
Eden
no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
All I will say for now is that this is all the more surprising as the "close person" I have mentioned before that turned me in to the elders was precisely my wife.
Eden
no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
Yadda
no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
Thank you Kate.
We have more family "in", and I won't pursue getting them "out" - I'll just let our example influence them, if they allow for that.
For me, the important ones to free were those in my own household. Accomplished!
Of course, we now expect plenty of peer pressure from family, friends, elders and whatnot as we're quite "visible" in our circuit.
Eden
no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
Happy news ... my beloved wife is OUT of the cult !!!
weeeeeeee!!!!!
More details coming soon, when it's safe.
In the meantime, my sincere thank yous for Barbara Anderson and Paul Grundy - you have been intrumental in this surprising turn of events.
Eden
authors david chilton (1987) and james stuart russell (1878) propose that the revelation is primarily a prophecy of the destruction of ancient jerusalem by the roman armies.
the revelation is jerusalem's armageddon (mountain of assembled roman troops).
i see the revelation as a war siren warning the first century christians of the imminent destruction of the city.
Tiresias,
I have never read the authors you've mentioned. When I dig into research, I try to be as free as possible from any external influence other than my own thinking. [In my view, this protects me from biased research] Only after I come to my conclusions I peer it with other authors, and may make minor adjustments if I think they're in order, or simply scratch my entire work if I think someone else has already disproved me beyond rebuttal.
In any case, my own secular work and also family issues have kept me away from any sort of serious research lately.
Eden
authors david chilton (1987) and james stuart russell (1878) propose that the revelation is primarily a prophecy of the destruction of ancient jerusalem by the roman armies.
the revelation is jerusalem's armageddon (mountain of assembled roman troops).
i see the revelation as a war siren warning the first century christians of the imminent destruction of the city.
I agree with the OP.
Babylon the Great is Jerusalem ... The beast is Rome.
All is in the past already.
Eden
no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
Watch this space ... developments have been under way ....
Eden
my question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.
also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .
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Read Jonah 4:11: - "And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left--and also many animals?"
Read Psalm 36:6 - "Your righteousness is like the highest mountains, your justice like the great deep. You, LORD, preserve both people and animals."
Read Psalm 145:9 -"Yahweh is good to all. His tender mercies are over all his works."
Read Deuteronomy 25:4 - "You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing."
The writers of the OT portrayed Yahweh as a creator God who cares even for the well-being of his animal creatures. One of the reasons given NOT to destroy the city of Nineveh was the amount of innocent people and animals in it. Now, a caring Almighty God who would be keen in cleansing the earth from wicked humans surely could find a way to selectively erase them from existence without causing worldwide havoc and killing unimaginable numbers of animal lives in the process, would he not?
Eden
as well as providing new archaeological information, the book "the ark before noah: decoding the story of the flood" by irving finkel (published 2014) provides material for those of us who are interested in the neo-babylonian period.
for example, one subheading is: "why were the judeans in babylon?
" (page 226).. dr irving finkel is assistant keeper of ancient mesopotamian script, languages, and cultures at the british museum.
Marked. Thank you Doug.
Eden
from professor bart ehrman's blog: fundamentalists and the variants in our manuscripts20.
jun.
first, our friends among the fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals.
One is faced with a hard choice here. Either
a) God was competent to inspire / move human writers to write his words and thoughts, but incompetent to preserve the anadultered message of the original writings;
or
b) God never intended to produce a "Bible", an authorized anthology of books detailing some of his dealings with mankind, his words and thoughts, And therefore, had no interest in miraculously preserve those writings in pristine original form for posterity;
or
c) Nothing that was ever written as 'inspired scripture' was ever produced by God, is merely the endeavour of humans who wrote 'inspired', in the sense that they had God in mind when they wrote down their own thoughts.
Hard choice.
Eden