these men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
Since 2008, property value in Spain has depreciated over 50% - those who sell are desperately in need of the cash, and can't afford surely to re-invest it in whatever. However, if this took place around 2001, that was the height of the real-estate fever in Spain, where property was (artificially) inflating in value over 8% per year. Some good opportunities for scammers in that climate ...
Eden
these men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
1300 members donated 170.000.000 € ?? Really?? That's an average of 130.769,23€ per publisher. (146.950,00$ USD) Something's not right about that figure. Even if 35 very wealthy brothers could donate 70.000.000€, (two million each), that would still average 79.051,00 € on each of the 1265 remaining publishers. That's more or less one year's salary of a well-paid CEO of a sizeable corporation in Spain. That's simply not believable, even more considering the economical crisis in Spain. The Bethel in Spain is the only entity that could hypothetically hold so much money.
Eden
justin bieber has beliebers.
benedict cumberbatch has cumberbitches.
surely the ego-stroking gb worshipping fans deserve a name.. gbsters?
i thought we needed carpenters and plumbers in paradise...oh well... the hypocrisy.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: experienced attorneys and paralegals needed at bethel.
dear brothers:.
They figure out that:
a) If you're smart enough to get a college degree
b) If your're smart enough to see through the WTS bulls**t regarding 'higher education', go ahead and get a diploma in spite of pressures from Elders
AND
c) after all that, you're still able to look at yourself in the mirror and stay "in"
then you're just the kind of person they need for their legal department.
Eden
did anyone notice this wt's subtle attack on wikipedia?
they wrote (from the 2011 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses, pp.
9-10. source: 'tracing all things with accuracy'):.
The Watchtower Society will dismiss any website that isn't supportive of their beliefs. A "neutral" view, an "independent" view, or a site that will display the "opposite view" for the sake of balance of opinion, will be a big no-no, nearly as dangerous as outwardly "apostate" websites. Even those that are pro-Jehovah's Witnesses aren't in any way endorsed nor are individual Witnesses encouraged to take part in those. In fact, if it were the GB's way, the only website that any faithful JW could ever access to would be the ubiquitous JW.org.
Eden
hey everyone, this is my first post.
i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..
it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.
Welcome to the forum.
Your story as a young rising star elder in your circuit rings a lot of familiar bells with mine. Your story of the elder in fishnet stockings smacks the nearly unbelievable category, but I'll just take your word for it. I wish you have done something more than just nodding, because his hypocrisy is unforgivable. Hoping to hear more from you.
Eden
No wonder the Israelite authorities don't have much esteem for Jehovah's Witnesses, even to this day. They have memory and don't take this lightly.
Eden
whatever the outcome of the appeal, i fear that most of us are going to be very disappointed.. a) obviously if the org wins.. b) if the org loses, they will put their plan 'b' into action - damage limitation - which will iinvolve confidentiality agreements being signed by pending/future victims, thereby settling the majority of cases out of court, and winning in several ways;.
there are probably other benefits, but these are the principal ones, and for these reasons i reckon the floodgates will never be allowed to be opened!!!
they've seen how other establishments have responded to their pedophile cases, and have picked up some good tips on how to minimise the effects.
konceptual99
I disagree - we can still see new cases surface, regarding molestations that happened before the organizational changes [say, pre-2000], and for those, I'm sure the WTS can still be found liable, even in the light of more recent organizational changes.
In any case, we must remember that the Conti case isn't about "bringing the Watchtower Society down to the dust", but it's chiefly about a) the wrongdoing that was inflicted to Candace Conti; and then b) protecting other children within the Jehovah's Witnesses community from sexual predators who may find safe haven within the congregations because of the WTS' idiotic policies.
Eden
whatever the outcome of the appeal, i fear that most of us are going to be very disappointed.. a) obviously if the org wins.. b) if the org loses, they will put their plan 'b' into action - damage limitation - which will iinvolve confidentiality agreements being signed by pending/future victims, thereby settling the majority of cases out of court, and winning in several ways;.
there are probably other benefits, but these are the principal ones, and for these reasons i reckon the floodgates will never be allowed to be opened!!!
they've seen how other establishments have responded to their pedophile cases, and have picked up some good tips on how to minimise the effects.
I think if we were hoping that we would see the Watchtower's demise through pedophile lawsuits, we will be disappointed. However, if the outcome is:
a) Bad press for the Watchtower Society
b) Significant change in the way the Watchtower Society and the congregations handle pedophiles and cases of child molestation, in order to protect the children from molesters and act swiftly in the victim's interests;
then I would say, regardless of the outcome of Candace Conti's case [sentence or settlement out of court], that the outcome has been positive.
Eden
need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.
thanks for any info.. .
