Posts by EdenOne

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I was shy on my first JW.ORG Video, I am so happy sharing God's Organization with you!

by JWCart1975 in

jw.org is the fastest growing media outlet in the world, our local cobe said we are going to take the media from satan's wicked world!

repent before it's too late and come back to the kingdom hall with all your loving brothers and sisters!

you won't find happiness without jehovah's organization and you know it!

EdenOne

All faithful JW Carts go to Paradise, while all others end up in scrap. You can't get a better retirement plan anywhere else in the world.

Eden

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Apocalyptic 2 Esdras 2

by Doug Mason in

await your shepherd; he will give you everlasting rest, because he who will come at the end of the age is close at hand.

be ready for the rewards of the kingdom.

... receive what the lord has entrusted to you and be joyful, giving thanks to him who has called you to heavenly kingdoms..

Can we make definitive assumptions on what material was written first? As far as I could read, the first two chapters of 2 Esdras are thought to be much older than the rest of the work. My impression is that it should pre-date Revelation (less sophisticated theology), but ... that's just little ole me saying.

Eden

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Apocalyptic 2 Esdras 2

by Doug Mason in

await your shepherd; he will give you everlasting rest, because he who will come at the end of the age is close at hand.

be ready for the rewards of the kingdom.

... receive what the lord has entrusted to you and be joyful, giving thanks to him who has called you to heavenly kingdoms..

EdenOne

Such resemblance with Revelation!

eden

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Hello

by Garrett in

jw
friends

hello forum,.

i'm new here and not sure where to post.

so, i'm 21 years old and currently a baptized witness, however, i'm slowly making my mind up to leave and here's why.. first, there are certain things that make no sense to me in the organization.

EdenOne

Welcome, Garrett.

First and foremost - seek professional help for your depression issue. Don't for a minute rest thinking that Bible counsel or getting more deeply engaged in any kind of theocratic activity will be of genuine help. You need professional counseling and most likely, medication. Once you're on medication, it's really important that you stick to it under your doctor's supervision. Most JW's have a tendency to downplay medical science in favor of "natural meds" or other kinds of "alternative therapies" offered by charlatans that often are JW's themselves or their relatives. Don't follow that trend.

Then, use that depression to your advantage - as an excuse to fade from the field service, KH meetings, and evade shepherding calls from Elders. Eventually they will give you some room (mainly because they don't want to deal with it, anyway) and then you will have some room to breathe. You will, from time to time, deal with guilty feelings, and those may add to your anxiety and depression, but they will too start fading away. Just don't allow yourself to be guilt-driven back into the Org. You're young and don't have much 'baggage' (children, relatives) within the Org, and, like others have said, it makes things so much less complicated.

In the meantime, try to find some interesting activity, a hobby, a pet, that may safely capture your attention and affection away from the KH.

Eden

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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

by cappytan in

these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

EdenOne

I was just reading the article in the "El País" newspaper.

It seems they were after those JW's who sold properties and persuaded them to invest in their scheme, in the shape of an investment company called "Rural New Life y Mutua Mas Vida". Looks like they "re-invested" the funds in properties. (It mentions estates in Marbella and Lanzarote, tourist resorts). I bet that, in the craze of the real estate market back then, some deals were initially profitable, but soon they were caught in the curve.

The 1300 may well be solely the number of people that participated in some sort of class-action lawsuit, or identified victims by the court. The number of those who actually donated may likely be much larger than 1300. In that scenario, this story gains more plausibility.

Eden

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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

by cappytan in

these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

EdenOne

Since 2008, property value in Spain has depreciated over 50% - those who sell are desperately in need of the cash, and can't afford surely to re-invest it in whatever. However, if this took place around 2001, that was the height of the real-estate fever in Spain, where property was (artificially) inflating in value over 8% per year. Some good opportunities for scammers in that climate ...

Eden

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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

by cappytan in

these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

EdenOne

1300 members donated 170.000.000 € ?? Really?? That's an average of 130.769,23€ per publisher. (146.950,00$ USD) Something's not right about that figure. Even if 35 very wealthy brothers could donate 70.000.000€, (two million each), that would still average 79.051,00 € on each of the 1265 remaining publishers. That's more or less one year's salary of a well-paid CEO of a sizeable corporation in Spain. That's simply not believable, even more considering the economical crisis in Spain. The Bethel in Spain is the only entity that could hypothetically hold so much money.

Eden

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Search for GB Fan Name

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

justin bieber has beliebers.

benedict cumberbatch has cumberbitches.

surely the ego-stroking gb worshipping fans deserve a name.. gbsters?

EdenOne

Governed Buddies

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Re: Experienced Attorneys and Paralegals Needed at Bethel

by pixel in

i thought we needed carpenters and plumbers in paradise...oh well... the hypocrisy.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: experienced attorneys and paralegals needed at bethel.

dear brothers:.

EdenOne

They figure out that:

a) If you're smart enough to get a college degree

b) If your're smart enough to see through the WTS bulls**t regarding 'higher education', go ahead and get a diploma in spite of pressures from Elders

AND

c) after all that, you're still able to look at yourself in the mirror and stay "in"

then you're just the kind of person they need for their legal department.

Eden

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WT's subtle attack on Wikipedia!

by Wonderment in

did anyone notice this wt's subtle attack on wikipedia?

they wrote (from the 2011 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses, pp.

9-10. source: 'tracing all things with accuracy'):.

EdenOne

The Watchtower Society will dismiss any website that isn't supportive of their beliefs. A "neutral" view, an "independent" view, or a site that will display the "opposite view" for the sake of balance of opinion, will be a big no-no, nearly as dangerous as outwardly "apostate" websites. Even those that are pro-Jehovah's Witnesses aren't in any way endorsed nor are individual Witnesses encouraged to take part in those. In fact, if it were the GB's way, the only website that any faithful JW could ever access to would be the ubiquitous JW.org.

Eden