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  Watchtower's deception regarding blood transfusions

  by Rufus T. Firefly in

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  you also ask why one can be dis-fellowshipped for taking a blood transfusion but not for taking blood fractions.

  while both may affect the life of an individual, the expression "life-sustaining" in connection with blood transfusions is synonymous with the idea of taking in food for nourishment.

  in this regard both whole blood and major components of it carry nutrients, oxygen, and other nourishment to the body.

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  May KM Highlight 1/Cong baptized

  by Gayle in

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  at 2014 conventions (regional?

  ) 14,039 baptized.

  outstanding for 13,871 congs!

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  As far as I can remember the "40.000" DF'd or DA'd was a world-wide figure, not just US. But it's a very old one.

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  Pick your belief system

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think we've all noticed a ton of newbe's these past months.

  one part of escaping or thinking about escaping the jw's is coming to terms with what you believe now and/or what direction you are leaning towards.. here is a site that has a quick quiz that may be of some worth or just for fun.

  i took it when i first signed on here and the results surprised me because it was pretty accurate.. you don't have to sign up for anything and when you finish you will get a percentage answer on 20 major belief systems.

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  Cofty

  It has "non theist"

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  A couple questions for atheists on Suffering

  by little_Socrates in

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  who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

  do you find any value in suffering?.

  do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?

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  The only time suffering is aptly qualified as "evil" is when it's unecessarily inflicted by a human upon another human. Everything else is just random chance, even something as horrific as the Tsunami of 2004.

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  a situation I know of and the mind set of the elders.

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok here's the situation i know of.. a women was in a situation where she was forced to reveal a hidden sin and was given a private reproof for it.

  before this she had an other wise clean slate.

  btw the reproof was for an unrelated matter and had nothing to do with apostasy.

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  Elders are too busy these days to waste much time with someone they perceive as not being worth the effort. If you're a female with no family "in" and no children that can be potential bible studies, then you're a VUP - Very Unimportant Person - and they'll leave you alone, at least until some zealous CO wanting to do a shepherding visit instead of door to door witnessing will force them to take a modicum of interest in you. Be thankful for your peace.

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  50th anniversary of "Bloody Sunday" -- WHAT???

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  take a look at the linked ap photograph and tell me what you think:.

  - miss black u.s., miss black georgia and miss black teen .

  what would the likes of al sharpton say if the hallowed event this weekend at the edmund pettus bridge in selma, alabama had been attended by a miss white u.s., miss white georgia and miss white teen?

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  It's only "racism" when it's promoted by the dominant majority. Or didn't you get the memo? Turn it around and it will be called "empowerment" of minorities [previously oppressed or whatnot]. What most people don't get - it's UNFAIR, and it's the seed of a new fashion of racism. Because racism and segregation - promoted by a minority or a majority, it's still RACISM and SEGREGATION. Better call a spade a spade. If the Rwanda (and Burundi) history since the Belgians left the territory serves as a lesson, remember that Tutsis and Hutus took turns in mass-murdering each other since 1959, all based in racial-ethnical discrimination, which shifted as the minority became power or the majority took over power. Racism and segregation are still racism and segregation, even when they are promoted by the less favored minority - because it fuels the future aspiration that, once the minority is able to grab the power, they will have their revenge.

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  Watchtower in local newspaper

  by lostinthought in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  forgive me if this has been posted already but this was in my local paper today.. http://m.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486/0/wap&template=wapart.

  if you have time to read, this is an interesting article talking about watchtowers property in ulster and orange county ny and how much the properties are worth.

  it also goes on to show how the tax exempt stays is hurting the communities..

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  Each JW tourist visiting the local shops will benefit the community by placing a tract with each shop employee... the community is happyfied!

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  "The Tower of sand"

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my study on the pillars that create and support the existence of the governing body: "144,000", little flock, great crowd, and other sheep.. http://www.jwstudies.com/the_tower_of_sand.pdf.

  doug.

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  marked for later.

  Thanks, Doug, look forward to reading it.

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  THEOCRATIC KENOSIS: the Watchtower Organization's ultimate goal for humanity

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ever wonder why jehovah's witnesses have almost nothing but words instead of love?.

  every wonder why jw's praise their corporate leaders rather than jesus?.

  every wonder why faith is only demonstrated by allowing children to die and molesters to escape, or disasters to be welcomed through obstinate demonstrations of loyalty to the org?.

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  Great post, Terry.

  It's a very observable reality - once the individual has been emptied from any individuality, having ultimately become just an empty recipient of whatever propaganda the Watchtower wishes to fill it with, once the person leaves the cult, all that's left is a huge, empty hole of what used to be the Watchtower indoctrination. An empty hole, the empty outer shell of an empty soul ...

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  Pick your belief system

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think we've all noticed a ton of newbe's these past months.

  one part of escaping or thinking about escaping the jw's is coming to terms with what you believe now and/or what direction you are leaning towards.. here is a site that has a quick quiz that may be of some worth or just for fun.

  i took it when i first signed on here and the results surprised me because it was pretty accurate.. you don't have to sign up for anything and when you finish you will get a percentage answer on 20 major belief systems.

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  Funny enough, I take that test now and then to monitor my own progress as I fade away from the JW world.

  Here are my latest results:

  100% Secular Humanist

  91% Unitarian Universalism

  84% Non-Theist

  74% Liberal Quakers

  ....

  0% Jehovah's Witnesses

  "You've come a long way, baby" ....

  Eden