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  Huffington Post: When Is A Religion 'Extremist'? [Food for thought!]

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/when-is-a-religion-extremist_us_590de8e3e4b046ea176aeb98.

  tim rymel, m.ed.. governments who support “religious freedom” over the equal human rights and dignity of others condone, and even endorse discrimination.. 05/06/2017 11:27 am et | photo – flickr/ justin kern .

  government endorsement of any religious ideology creates religious extremism.

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  Steve 2 - Yet, in terms of actual behaviour, JWs do not advocate or carry out any part of this 'destruction'. Is that an extremist belief though? Yes. Does it lead to extremist behaviour? No.

  Simon - A christian practicing their beliefs is usually a normal, functioning member of society. A muslim actually practicing their religions beliefs is a psychotic killer.

  When one considers that, in obedience to the Watchtwer's teachings, most Jehovah's Witnesses treat ex-members as though they are dead men walking, waiting to be destroyed in the Armageddon, I would argue that such BEHAVIOR is worthy of being classified as "extremist". They "kill" family members and friends by cutting them from their lives and treating them as if they were dead. That behavior is psychological violence.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses get support from .... the Catholic Church?

  by EdenOne in

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  in this article on newsweek:.

  http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-ban-russia-catholic-593082.

  catholics are concerned about their religion being discriminated as well in russia.

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  In this article on Newsweek:

  http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-ban-russia-catholic-593082

  Catholics are concerned about their religion being discriminated as well in Russia. Birds of a feather....
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  NEWSWEEK: After Ban, Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia Harassed by Police During Religious Services

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. friends

  http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-589791.

  after ban, jehovah’s witnesses in russia harassed by police during religious services.

  by jason le miere on 4/25/17 at 4:48 pm .

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  The ban in Russia is a god send for the WT leadership because it totally diverts the unwanted attention of the flock to the ARC and allows them to play on a familiar territory: play the persecution card, act victim-like, display martyrs. And then they will bundle the ARC conclusions with the Russian ban as if they were all part of persecution from satan-controlled authorities and claim the end is near .... what else is new in this strategy?
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  Your opinion is watchtower extremist?

  by poopie in

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  court gave 4 reasons you agree disagree.

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  EdenOne

  Definitions of "extremism" and "extremist":

  • "belief in and support for ideas that are very far from what most people consider correct or reasonable"
  • "advocacy of extreme measures or views"
  • "a person who favours or resorts to immoderate, uncompromising, or fanatical methods or behavior"

  
  

  Now think about some of the beliefs and practices held by the Jehovah's Witnesses. Do they fit the definitions?

  
  

  • A Jehovah's Witness will rather die (or let his infant child die) rather than accept a blood transfusion that may save her life;
  • Jehovah's Witness hold that their religion is the only true religion and all other religions are destined to be destroyed by God;
  • Jehovah's Witnesses will rather be fined, imprisioned, tortured, and executed rather than getting involved in mandatory military service;
  • Jehovah's Witnesses will completely ostracize former members of the religion, including family members who don't live in the household.
  • Jehovah's Witnesses will expel from their household non-dependent family members who engage in ongoing immoral (by their definition) sexual behavior.
  • Jehovah's Witness will terminate unilaterally fellowship with whomever develop a disagreement with even one doctrine or practice advocated at any given time by their leadership.
  • Jehovah's Witnesses will chose to be considered socially awkward rather than joining the mainstream society in celebrating holidays, birthdays,etc ...
  • Jehovah's Witnesses teach hatred towards other religions.
  • Jehovah's Witness are expected to mindlessly and acritically obey every instruction from their leadership.
  • Jehovah's Witness believe they are a specially sanctified spiritual elite and that they must live separated from the world, which they believe is wholly controlled by Satan, thus abstaining from exercising their civil rights and obligations.

  
  

  All of the above (and some more) fits entirely in the definition of extremism ...
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  Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

  i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

  they are an extremist group!

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  honest

  no, I am better then them. They are willing to sacrifice their children and themselves for a crazy ideology. I'm not willing to sacrifice them for that ideology. Unless they had committed a crime. It's the organization that should be prosecuted, not its believers.
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  Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

  i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

  they are an extremist group!

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  I don't think my 80-year old half demented JW mother would deserve to be put in jail for wanting to attend a religious meeting of the JW's. That's just not a fair thing.

  There are other ways the Russian authorities CAN curtail the harm done by the JW organization. Attacking the 150.000 believers isn't one of them.

  Tax them, sue them, regulate them, fine them. Works better than a blanket ban.
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  Had Putin Reconsidered the ban of Watch Tower in RUSSIA ?

  by lusitano o tuga in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where is the source ???.

  is it that a big snowstorm will stop the trial in the supreme russian court and the case will be postponed?.

  the modern elijahs prayed to the true god and he heard or he will hear and he will bring a great blizzard(snowstorm) in moscow or st. petersburg and prevent judgment against jehovah's witnesses?

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  April 1st, anyone...?
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  Spanish: Child abuses within JW. Fact and evidence video

  by sp74bb in

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  2. child-abuse

  the independent evangelical tv media in latinoamérica, tvgracia, has made a special program of 35 min in spanish regarding how abuses are managed within jw:.

  https://youtu.be/-l2kl5tzz1k.

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  "independent evangelical" - isn't that a contradiction?
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  How To Treat Disfellowshipped Ones - According To 1 August 1974 Watchtower

  by pale.emperor in

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  are you seeing what im seeing?.

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  This was during the short-lived Watchtower Spring that ended in the all-out witch hunting against Ray Franz and all other independent thinkers. Within 6 years all that was hardened 100x again.
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  Not Inspired, Not Infallible

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it occurred to me this morning while one the train to work that jw's, including my family, use the following weasel phrases to excuse the errors they've made over the years:.

  "god uses imperfect men".

  "jesus didn't say he'd give perfect spiritual food".

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  Jesus didn't preach door-to-door as his main method, did he? He would stay at people's homes for hospitality purposes; How come Matthew 24:14 is being fulfilled by the Jehovah's Witnesses alone? Look at how many ministries are out there, many with ubiquitous presence on the internet, radio, television, schools ... much more effective ministry than the depressing literature carts ...