Bad ideas *can* and *should* be banned, if they are spread with the intent of becoming dangerous behaviors via others. For example, influencing youngsters to commit suicide. It's merely implanting an idea on someone else's mind. Should it be stopped from happening? I believe it should.
EdenOne
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Huffington Post: When Is A Religion 'Extremist'? [Food for thought!]
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/when-is-a-religion-extremist_us_590de8e3e4b046ea176aeb98.
tim rymel, m.ed.. governments who support “religious freedom” over the equal human rights and dignity of others condone, and even endorse discrimination.. 05/06/2017 11:27 am et | photo – flickr/ justin kern .
government endorsement of any religious ideology creates religious extremism.
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Huffington Post: When Is A Religion 'Extremist'? [Food for thought!]
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/when-is-a-religion-extremist_us_590de8e3e4b046ea176aeb98.
tim rymel, m.ed.. governments who support “religious freedom” over the equal human rights and dignity of others condone, and even endorse discrimination.. 05/06/2017 11:27 am et | photo – flickr/ justin kern .
government endorsement of any religious ideology creates religious extremism.
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EdenOne
Steve, if ONE JW would shun me genuinely out of their own volition, and not influenced by what is dictated to them by the Watchtower, I wouldn't protest.
You and I know, however, that's not what happens.
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Huffington Post: When Is A Religion 'Extremist'? [Food for thought!]
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/when-is-a-religion-extremist_us_590de8e3e4b046ea176aeb98.
tim rymel, m.ed.. governments who support “religious freedom” over the equal human rights and dignity of others condone, and even endorse discrimination.. 05/06/2017 11:27 am et | photo – flickr/ justin kern .
government endorsement of any religious ideology creates religious extremism.
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EdenOne
pbrow,
You, I, and everyone, have the personal right to decide to not communicate with someone based on whatever opinion we have of said person. That doesn't make anyone an extremist. If I believe someone in the neighborhood is a pedophile, I am entitled to shun that person and instruct my children to stay away from any contact.
However, it is a whole different matter when an Organization teaches and coerces its members to discriminate against others based on religious, racial, ethnical, or sexual differences. That constitutes a violation of human rights. That is indeed extremism. That is what the Organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses does. Ask the Jehovah's Witnesses if they would stop shunning ex-members if the Governing Body would tell them it was a matter of conscience and no one would suffer retaliation if he would decide to have normal social dealings with ex-members. I risk saying the vast majority would stop shunning. And that would clearly demonstrate that Jehovah's Witnesses do not shun as an expression of their free will, but rather, they take that extremist behavior in obedience to organizationally directed shunning.
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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...
by Stumpy ini've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
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EdenOne
Stumpy, great news and awesome to hear from you!
Wish you two the happiest possible life. Well done.
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Huffington Post: When Is A Religion 'Extremist'? [Food for thought!]
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/when-is-a-religion-extremist_us_590de8e3e4b046ea176aeb98.
tim rymel, m.ed.. governments who support “religious freedom” over the equal human rights and dignity of others condone, and even endorse discrimination.. 05/06/2017 11:27 am et | photo – flickr/ justin kern .
government endorsement of any religious ideology creates religious extremism.
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EdenOne
Steve 2 - Yet, in terms of actual behaviour, JWs do not advocate or carry out any part of this 'destruction'. Is that an extremist belief though? Yes. Does it lead to extremist behaviour? No.
Simon - A christian practicing their beliefs is usually a normal, functioning member of society. A muslim actually practicing their religions beliefs is a psychotic killer.
When one considers that, in obedience to the Watchtwer's teachings, most Jehovah's Witnesses treat ex-members as though they are dead men walking, waiting to be destroyed in the Armageddon, I would argue that such BEHAVIOR is worthy of being classified as "extremist". They "kill" family members and friends by cutting them from their lives and treating them as if they were dead. That behavior is psychological violence.
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Jehovah's Witnesses get support from .... the Catholic Church?
by EdenOne inin this article on newsweek:.
http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-ban-russia-catholic-593082.
catholics are concerned about their religion being discriminated as well in russia.
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EdenOne
In this article on Newsweek:
http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-ban-russia-catholic-593082
Catholics are concerned about their religion being discriminated as well in Russia. Birds of a feather....
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NEWSWEEK: After Ban, Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia Harassed by Police During Religious Services
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-589791.
after ban, jehovah’s witnesses in russia harassed by police during religious services.
by jason le miere on 4/25/17 at 4:48 pm .
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EdenOne
The ban in Russia is a god send for the WT leadership because it totally diverts the unwanted attention of the flock to the ARC and allows them to play on a familiar territory: play the persecution card, act victim-like, display martyrs. And then they will bundle the ARC conclusions with the Russian ban as if they were all part of persecution from satan-controlled authorities and claim the end is near .... what else is new in this strategy?
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EdenOne
Definitions of "extremism" and "extremist":
- "belief in and support for ideas that are very far from what most people consider correct or reasonable"
- "advocacy of extreme measures or views"
- "a person who favours or resorts to immoderate, uncompromising, or fanatical methods or behavior"
Now think about some of the beliefs and practices held by the Jehovah's Witnesses. Do they fit the definitions?
- A Jehovah's Witness will rather die (or let his infant child die) rather than accept a blood transfusion that may save her life;
- Jehovah's Witness hold that their religion is the only true religion and all other religions are destined to be destroyed by God;
- Jehovah's Witnesses will rather be fined, imprisioned, tortured, and executed rather than getting involved in mandatory military service;
- Jehovah's Witnesses will completely ostracize former members of the religion, including family members who don't live in the household.
- Jehovah's Witnesses will expel from their household non-dependent family members who engage in ongoing immoral (by their definition) sexual behavior.
- Jehovah's Witness will terminate unilaterally fellowship with whomever develop a disagreement with even one doctrine or practice advocated at any given time by their leadership.
- Jehovah's Witnesses will chose to be considered socially awkward rather than joining the mainstream society in celebrating holidays, birthdays,etc ...
- Jehovah's Witnesses teach hatred towards other religions.
- Jehovah's Witness are expected to mindlessly and acritically obey every instruction from their leadership.
- Jehovah's Witness believe they are a specially sanctified spiritual elite and that they must live separated from the world, which they believe is wholly controlled by Satan, thus abstaining from exercising their civil rights and obligations.
All of the above (and some more) fits entirely in the definition of extremism ...
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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??
by Crazyguy init's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.
i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.
they are an extremist group!
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EdenOne
honest
no, I am better then them. They are willing to sacrifice their children and themselves for a crazy ideology. I'm not willing to sacrifice them for that ideology. Unless they had committed a crime. It's the organization that should be prosecuted, not its believers.
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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??
by Crazyguy init's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.
i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.
they are an extremist group!
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EdenOne
I don't think my 80-year old half demented JW mother would deserve to be put in jail for wanting to attend a religious meeting of the JW's. That's just not a fair thing.
There are other ways the Russian authorities CAN curtail the harm done by the JW organization. Attacking the 150.000 believers isn't one of them.
Tax them, sue them, regulate them, fine them. Works better than a blanket ban.