EdenOne
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You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
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You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
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EdenOne
No, I'm not the least confused about that, Cofty. If you feel you have a constructive debate with theists, then you're a moderate atheist in my perspective. At least you debate. But you don't always do that, to be true.
Eden
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You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
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EdenOne
Cofty
A "moderate atheist" will state that the scientific method must presume by default that reality can be explained by objective, natural causes, therefore choosing to discard supernatural causes; in this view, the existence of God cannot be proved nor disproved, and by extension, he will at least respect the views of those who are convinced of the existence of God, at least to the point of being able to establish a civilized and even fruitful discussion with theists. A "gutsy radical atheist" - dare I say atheistic fundamentalist - will say that obviously God doesn't exist, and all believers are delusional ignorants not even worthy of being considered elegible for constructive dialog or debate.
Eden
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You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
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EdenOne
Atheists and Agnostics can provide a healthy balance of views and challenges that keep Theists in proper check.
Good point, Vanderhoven7.
If it weren't for agnosticism and atheism - and by this I mean the moderate approach, not the gutsy radical one - christian religion would be an uncontrollable tyranny this day and age.
Eden
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You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
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EdenOne
Since you took upon yourself to be the public prossecutor of the website that I run (and btw, thank you for the free publicity ), let me assist you, your excellency, in clarifying the meager 0,1% in which I disagree with the WTS.
- I don't believe in 1914, and consequently i don't believe we've been living the "last days" since then until now
- I don't believe the Kingdom of God is merely a government type of administration; I believe it's a reality far more complex than that.
- I believe in a universal heavenly reward for all the believers
- I believe that a cleansed planet earth will be inhabited permanently by a righteous human society; This, however, doesn't mean that individual people will live forever on earth.
- I don't believe that any Christian religion can be singled out as having the sole "truth" about God and Christ
- As a consequence, I don't believe that the JW's, in particular their leadership, are "God's sole mouthpiece" on earth;
- I believe that Christianity is the true religion, rather than a specific flavor of Christianity.
- I don't believe that baptism should be considered as means to ordain a member of a specific denomination
- I don't believe that Daniel 2:44 refers to the Kingdom of God
- I believe most of Daniel's prophecies were fulfilled in the past, including those involving the "king of the north x king of the south".
- i don't believe that the "Faithful and discrete slave" is a group of religious leaders in charge of dispensing spiritual food nowadays.
- I believe that the Bible isn't incompatible with evolutionism.
And these are just a few things that I wrote about and published as of yet.
By all means, let the readers be the judge.
Eden
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You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
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EdenOne
I think I will coin a new term for your kind of blatant false statement about different views: coftism. How about that? I expected that a disciple of Dawkins would be intellectually honest and didn't resort to that sort of argument. But hey. I'm just an ignorant theist, right?
Eden
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You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
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EdenOne
Gotta love the 'JW-despite-atheist' attitude towards different beliefs ...
Eden
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Pedophiles Knocking
by Marvin Shilmer inpedophiles knocking .
in a nutshell, it points out why the general public should be leery of jehovahs witnesses knocking at the front door.
my article is titled pedophiles knocking and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/07/pedophiles-knocking.html.
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EdenOne
Marvin,
I don't intend to make a big issue out of this. I said what I said, raised an alert. I rest my case now.
Eden
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Pedophiles Knocking
by Marvin Shilmer inpedophiles knocking .
in a nutshell, it points out why the general public should be leery of jehovahs witnesses knocking at the front door.
my article is titled pedophiles knocking and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/07/pedophiles-knocking.html.
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EdenOne
Scully
I believe you're missing my point. Of course paedophiles do insinuate themselves insidiously with children using the JW's activities. I've seen dozens of reports. As you agreed, they're patient and this happens gradually, even if the entire script is already written inside their heads. I'm merely pointing out to the nature of the title of the article, which is a blanket title that lends to people passing judgement upon any and every Witness that knocks on their door as a potential paedophile and reacting negatively towards the Witnesses based, not on the rejection of the doctrines, but on the hate towards the group. That's all.
3rdGen
I fully agree with you. Please understand that my objection is towards the title of the article, nothing more.
Eden
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Pedophiles Knocking
by Marvin Shilmer inpedophiles knocking .
in a nutshell, it points out why the general public should be leery of jehovahs witnesses knocking at the front door.
my article is titled pedophiles knocking and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/07/pedophiles-knocking.html.
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EdenOne
Scully, I've read many reports of paedophile cases perpetrated by JW's. I don't recall a single one perpetrated by a JW while on the door-to-door ministry upon children of the household. I simply don't recall a single one. Perhaps you can remember one?
Since the target audience of the article are people who live in households that are reached by the JW's in their door-to-door ministry, it would be a good idea to express in what way the JWs are more dangerous than the milkman, the postman, the neighbor next door or the pizza delivery guy who also knock on the door.
make them aware that some JWs may be knocking on their doors with ulterior motives
Well, that may well be a commendable objective and the article may well be on target with it. But it's the wording of the title, remember. The householder, not having any reasonable means to determine the ulterior motives of the Witness, will feel free to pass a judgement upon every single one of them as "those paedophiles knocking".
I stand by what I've said: The title of the article is hate-inducing.
Eden