I agree with the OP.
Babylon the Great is Jerusalem ... The beast is Rome.
All is in the past already.
Eden
authors david chilton (1987) and james stuart russell (1878) propose that the revelation is primarily a prophecy of the destruction of ancient jerusalem by the roman armies.
the revelation is jerusalem's armageddon (mountain of assembled roman troops).
i see the revelation as a war siren warning the first century christians of the imminent destruction of the city.
I agree with the OP.
Babylon the Great is Jerusalem ... The beast is Rome.
All is in the past already.
Eden
no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
Watch this space ... developments have been under way ....
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my question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.
also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .
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Read Jonah 4:11: - "And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left--and also many animals?"
Read Psalm 36:6 - "Your righteousness is like the highest mountains, your justice like the great deep. You, LORD, preserve both people and animals."
Read Psalm 145:9 -"Yahweh is good to all. His tender mercies are over all his works."
Read Deuteronomy 25:4 - "You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing."
The writers of the OT portrayed Yahweh as a creator God who cares even for the well-being of his animal creatures. One of the reasons given NOT to destroy the city of Nineveh was the amount of innocent people and animals in it. Now, a caring Almighty God who would be keen in cleansing the earth from wicked humans surely could find a way to selectively erase them from existence without causing worldwide havoc and killing unimaginable numbers of animal lives in the process, would he not?
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as well as providing new archaeological information, the book "the ark before noah: decoding the story of the flood" by irving finkel (published 2014) provides material for those of us who are interested in the neo-babylonian period.
for example, one subheading is: "why were the judeans in babylon?
" (page 226).. dr irving finkel is assistant keeper of ancient mesopotamian script, languages, and cultures at the british museum.
Marked. Thank you Doug.
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from professor bart ehrman's blog: fundamentalists and the variants in our manuscripts20.
jun.
first, our friends among the fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals.
One is faced with a hard choice here. Either
a) God was competent to inspire / move human writers to write his words and thoughts, but incompetent to preserve the anadultered message of the original writings;
or
b) God never intended to produce a "Bible", an authorized anthology of books detailing some of his dealings with mankind, his words and thoughts, And therefore, had no interest in miraculously preserve those writings in pristine original form for posterity;
or
c) Nothing that was ever written as 'inspired scripture' was ever produced by God, is merely the endeavour of humans who wrote 'inspired', in the sense that they had God in mind when they wrote down their own thoughts.
Hard choice.
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following my departure from the jehovah's witnesses, i have done my own research using preterism as a primary lens.
i would like to share my understanding of daniel chapter 2:.
31 "you looked, o king, and there before you stood a large statuean enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance.
Tiresias,
You can find an article I wrote about it here:
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i am in a spiritual void at the moment after a year out of the borg and 50 years in.. i'd like to hear 'brief' evidence for the existance or non existance of god/s without an argument between members here.. i'd like to get fresh view points as mine is now so critical it's telling me to be an agnostic or atheist.
why?
i am in want of evidence, not just words from a copy/paste troll & no links.. i just want to open up to new possibilities but with evidence to support it not just 'faith'..
Marked
following my departure from the jehovah's witnesses, i have done my own research using preterism as a primary lens.
i would like to share my understanding of daniel chapter 2:.
31 "you looked, o king, and there before you stood a large statuean enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance.
I came to that same conclusion myself last year. Eden
please read this short article and then think for a minute on how this apply to those amongst the jehovah's witnessses who enforce organizational policies that harm people (such as shunning, for example, but there are others, such as blood, rejection of higher education etc), and those who blindly comply with such pratices - both of them otherwise "nice, good people" in every other regards, and who apparently don't see anything wrong in doing something harmful, even evil, to their brethren.. what is this?
the "banality of evil", or, instead, because there's such a strong identification with a cause, people just accept they are doing the right thing simply because the authority that is regarded as legitimatly representing such cause has instructed them to do so?.
interesting thought - and this question too: if one ceases to see such "authority" as the legitimate agent of the cause, will that simple change cause the blind to finally become aware of the evil they've been enforcing / complying to?.
Thank you, Jgnat.
I just went through the first link on the Zimbardo's experiment. It's awfully disturbing. If one thinks that "prision guards" = congregation elders / CO's can be intoxicated by their own authority with such ease, then it's no wonder that they take on the role so agressively. Especially because they are given certain (imaginary) 'perks', such as participation in exclusive schools, seminars, being privy to certain informations otherwise not accessible to the R&F, that makes them feel privileged - and they're not prepared to let go of that status. They too are victims in this pyramid scheme, I'd say.
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hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .
recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .
but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.
TJ Curioso ... I'd like to read your article. I can read portuguese. Can you PM me please?
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