hey everyone, this is my first post.
i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..
it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.
Welcome to the forum.
Your story as a young rising star elder in your circuit rings a lot of familiar bells with mine. Your story of the elder in fishnet stockings smacks the nearly unbelievable category, but I'll just take your word for it. I wish you have done something more than just nodding, because his hypocrisy is unforgivable. Hoping to hear more from you.
Eden
No wonder the Israelite authorities don't have much esteem for Jehovah's Witnesses, even to this day. They have memory and don't take this lightly.
Eden
whatever the outcome of the appeal, i fear that most of us are going to be very disappointed.. a) obviously if the org wins.. b) if the org loses, they will put their plan 'b' into action - damage limitation - which will iinvolve confidentiality agreements being signed by pending/future victims, thereby settling the majority of cases out of court, and winning in several ways;.
there are probably other benefits, but these are the principal ones, and for these reasons i reckon the floodgates will never be allowed to be opened!!!
they've seen how other establishments have responded to their pedophile cases, and have picked up some good tips on how to minimise the effects.
konceptual99
I disagree - we can still see new cases surface, regarding molestations that happened before the organizational changes [say, pre-2000], and for those, I'm sure the WTS can still be found liable, even in the light of more recent organizational changes.
In any case, we must remember that the Conti case isn't about "bringing the Watchtower Society down to the dust", but it's chiefly about a) the wrongdoing that was inflicted to Candace Conti; and then b) protecting other children within the Jehovah's Witnesses community from sexual predators who may find safe haven within the congregations because of the WTS' idiotic policies.
Eden
whatever the outcome of the appeal, i fear that most of us are going to be very disappointed.. a) obviously if the org wins.. b) if the org loses, they will put their plan 'b' into action - damage limitation - which will iinvolve confidentiality agreements being signed by pending/future victims, thereby settling the majority of cases out of court, and winning in several ways;.
there are probably other benefits, but these are the principal ones, and for these reasons i reckon the floodgates will never be allowed to be opened!!!
they've seen how other establishments have responded to their pedophile cases, and have picked up some good tips on how to minimise the effects.
I think if we were hoping that we would see the Watchtower's demise through pedophile lawsuits, we will be disappointed. However, if the outcome is:
a) Bad press for the Watchtower Society
b) Significant change in the way the Watchtower Society and the congregations handle pedophiles and cases of child molestation, in order to protect the children from molesters and act swiftly in the victim's interests;
then I would say, regardless of the outcome of Candace Conti's case [sentence or settlement out of court], that the outcome has been positive.
Eden
need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.
thanks for any info.. .
in 2018, cyprus goes bankrupt (again).
many of its inhabitants, lacking jobs and prospectives of a better future, emigrate to more prosperous countries.
cyprus' society is on the brink of collapse.
I think this would be a fine idea for a fiction book authored by our own talented Terry. What do you think ...hmmm? Would you take on the challenge?
Eden
in 2018, cyprus goes bankrupt (again).
many of its inhabitants, lacking jobs and prospectives of a better future, emigrate to more prosperous countries.
cyprus' society is on the brink of collapse.
I bet the methods of execution would be stoning and hanging - just because they're "biblical".
Eden
should christians drink tea?.
would you like a cup of tea?.
this seemingly innocent question has been asked countless times, and is regarded as a gesture of courtesy and hospitability in many parts of the world, in both eastern and western culture.
Uh oh, I see a connection with Ayurveda. See? See? Magic! Demons! Evil!
;)
Eden
i keep reading that jehovah's witnesses are in effect monsters.
i keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake.
so i simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?.
Try working at the traffic department of an RC where parking space is scarce. You'll see how nice Witnesses change when under a little stress. Under the polished surface, we're all humans, after all. No surprises.
Eden
in a recent meeting with elders, an argument was used to the effect that jehovah has always [= throughout history] used, or operated through, an organization; therefore, the wts must be that organization today, since god must be using one.
naturally, i know what arguments i've used to counter that argument.
but i'm interested in hearing yours.
Stop making sense, Oubliette!
