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  What is BELIEF ?

  by EdenOne in

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  stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

  what exactly is "belief"?.

  is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

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  I would classify those amongst "strong atheists". But I concede that it may be a different group altogether.

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  Tear down the whole of South Africa

  by Louise in

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  there was a statue outside the rhodes university.

  a 30 year old black student then threw his pooh on the statue and that got the ball rolling to pull the statue down.

  the board of this university built also gives out burseries and grants to previously disadvantaged black south africans and not disadvantaged black south africans.. there has been a huge debate in the country and now the statue has been removed.

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  Racism is racism, no matter what color of skin of the one exercising it.

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  Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
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  for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

  follow isaac's story here:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

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  WOW ! WOW ! WOW!

  Elder - "Forget about 1914, forget about 1975, 1874 ... those are dates that are wordily history. Jehovah has got nothing to do with it."

  Are these guys even serious?? Hypocrites!

  "We don't go by C. T Russel"

  But you still go by JF Rutherford, right?

  "In 1914 Jehovah placed is royal Son upon his holy hill in Zion..." Watchtower 1932 Nov 1 p.325

  Hypocrites, hypocrites, hypocrites, liars!
  
  

  On a side note: Observe the ongoing trend to discard 1914 sometime in the future.

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  What is BELIEF ?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

  what exactly is "belief"?.

  is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

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  EdenOne

  Evade the question as much as you want. The question stands. Do you refuse to answer?

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  Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

  follow isaac's story here:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

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  Just started watching and I'm already cringing. Having sat through an apostasy JC before, this brings bad memories and anger. I wonder where Isaac managed to disguise the camera??

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  What is BELIEF ?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

  what exactly is "belief"?.

  is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

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  "Sociologist Darren Sherkat researched the belief of Americans in a higher power. He based his research on data from 8,000 adults polled by the Chicago-based National Opinion Research Center between 1988 and 2000. Among his findings were that 8% stated "I don't believe in a personal god, but I do believe in a higher power of some kind."

  So, this is a perfectly pertinent question. 8% of Americans believe in a "higher power" - some sort of non-personal god.

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  What is BELIEF ?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

  what exactly is "belief"?.

  is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

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  Cofty, the stupidity of your position is becoming obvious. And stop talking on behalf of "everybody" when you only represent yourself. (Viviane dixit) Am I short-circuiting your system?

  "ok, I mean, some sort of higher power that rules over the universe and the physical laws. Do you believe that or not?"

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  What is BELIEF ?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

  what exactly is "belief"?.

  is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

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  What do you mean by "god"?

  Ok, I take it that your answer is d)

  Then, I would reply, "uh, I don't know, any god one can think of, I suppose. Do you believe or not?"

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  What is BELIEF ?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

  what exactly is "belief"?.

  is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

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  EdenOne

  Atheism is a reply to specific assertions made by theists.

  If I would ask you:

  "Do you believe in God?"

  What would your answer be?

  a) Yes

  b) No

  c) I don't know

  d) What god exactly are you talking about?

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  What is BELIEF ?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

  what exactly is "belief"?.

  is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

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  EdenOne

  But don't you see that such question can also be turned on you?

  An atheist says: "I lack belief that god [or: deities] exist". Ok, so define "god". Or define a deity. Based on what knowledge are you going to assert your belief, or lack thereof, that they don't exist?

  If you must define first what god is so that you can disprove it with contrary evidence, then your knowledge about said god must come from somewhere. Where is the evidence for said god? This is the logical (or illogical) loop.

  Eden