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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
EdenOne

Either you can't read or won't read, Viviane. Go back and read that it wasn't me that was asking for a definition of "god". That is the sort of thing that should be asked to a theist. It's nonsensical to be insistingly asking to a non-theist like me to define a god. It's stupid and obtuse. For the empth time, I don't know.
But I get it. You need a definition given by a theist so you can then debunk it. But when a non-theist asks you to logically explain how come your so-called absence of belief in deities that stems from lack of evidence for their existence is in itself different than a belief proper, what I observe is some sort of broken record, headless chicken attitude.
Eden
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
EdenOne

Let's see Cofty work out from THAT definition. (if one can call it such)
After all, he expects such definition to attempt to answer to:
Does it interact with humans? Does it hear and answer prayers? In what way is the world different than if it didn't exist? Did it create the world? Did it create humans?
I don't see any of that in your definition. My take is that Cofty would classify that as:
Vague, vacuous nonsense.
Unless, of course, he would open an exception for you. But let's wait and see. Shouldn't take long now.
Eden
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
EdenOne

I would classify those amongst "strong atheists". But I concede that it may be a different group altogether.
Eden
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Tear down the whole of South Africa
by Louise in
1. jw
2. friends
there was a statue outside the rhodes university.

a 30 year old black student then threw his pooh on the statue and that got the ball rolling to pull the statue down.

the board of this university built also gives out burseries and grants to previously disadvantaged black south africans and not disadvantaged black south africans.. there has been a huge debate in the country and now the statue has been removed.
EdenOne

Racism is racism, no matter what color of skin of the one exercising it.
Eden
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Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1
by RayPublisher in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

follow isaac's story here:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.
EdenOne

WOW ! WOW ! WOW!
Elder - "Forget about 1914, forget about 1975, 1874 ... those are dates that are wordily history. Jehovah has got nothing to do with it."
Are these guys even serious?? Hypocrites!
"We don't go by C. T Russel"
But you still go by JF Rutherford, right?
"In 1914 Jehovah placed is royal Son upon his holy hill in Zion..." Watchtower 1932 Nov 1 p.325
Hypocrites, hypocrites, hypocrites, liars!

On a side note: Observe the ongoing trend to discard 1914 sometime in the future.
Eden
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
EdenOne

Evade the question as much as you want. The question stands. Do you refuse to answer?
Eden
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Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1
by RayPublisher in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

follow isaac's story here:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.
EdenOne

Just started watching and I'm already cringing. Having sat through an apostasy JC before, this brings bad memories and anger. I wonder where Isaac managed to disguise the camera??
Eden
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
EdenOne

"Sociologist Darren Sherkat researched the belief of Americans in a higher power. He based his research on data from 8,000 adults polled by the Chicago-based National Opinion Research Center between 1988 and 2000. Among his findings were that 8% stated "I don't believe in a personal god, but I do believe in a higher power of some kind."
So, this is a perfectly pertinent question. 8% of Americans believe in a "higher power" - some sort of non-personal god.
Eden
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
EdenOne

Cofty, the stupidity of your position is becoming obvious. And stop talking on behalf of "everybody" when you only represent yourself. (Viviane dixit) Am I short-circuiting your system?
"ok, I mean, some sort of higher power that rules over the universe and the physical laws. Do you believe that or not?"
Eden
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
EdenOne

What do you mean by "god"?
Ok, I take it that your answer is d)
Then, I would reply, "uh, I don't know, any god one can think of, I suppose. Do you believe or not?"
Eden