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  The Report - BBC Radio 4 about Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual Abuse can now be heard

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs.

  the report about child abuse and jehovah's witnesses is now live.. jehovah's witnesses handle child abuse cases.

  jehovah's witnesses and child sexual abuse, the report - bbc radio 4 .

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  Very interesting, very accurate, very balanced. Quality work by the BBC, as is their usual hallmark. Certainly this will raise public awareness in the UK and will be a reference for future legal cases and give courage to other victims to come up and speak.

  If I have one very slight criticism to make is that it should have been made more obvious the connection between the Elders' course of action and the legalistic directions coming from the Governing Body - the Elders 'spiritual career' and 'status quo' are dependant upon towing the corporate line thick and thin, and they regard the words of the GB as authoritative as the Bible itself, if not more. Aside this, it's a great piece of journalism.

  Damning information to the WTS from credible sources - not lone wolf loonie-like types with a payback mission on the web - is the key to raise public awareness to this problem.

  btw Mephis, thank you for your link. It worked for me.

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  Wonderful video resource which has to be seen in full to be appreciated.

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i highly recommend you watch this video.. it is superbly researched.

  you know all the things in this video already--but.

  watching it will create an impression on you which.

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  Good video, well researched.

  Personally I wish that it wasn't delivered as part of someone's Christian Ministry, as it would put some JW's automatically on guard against it.

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  How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may be some of you will be shocked by this question.

  however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.

  of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.

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  Even the Bible is clear that the most prominent among the apostles that walked with Jesus weren't exactly fond of Paul ... and he wasn't too fond of them either.

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  New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

  by suavojr in

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  2. friends

  let the merging begin!!!.

  to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

  re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

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  EdenOne

  Can we perhaps make the assumption that the WT, circa 2008, has lost unimaginable amounts of money that it had invested in hedge funds, and therefore they've been trying to make up for their losses since then - at the same time they deal with declining membership in the rich countries? The timeline is, at least, suggestive .... and we know they have invested in hedge funds ... we just don't know exactly how much.

  That assumption makes a lot more sense to me than any assumptions that they're lacking funds due to child abuse lawsuits or shrinking contributions per se.

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  My introduction and confession

  by elderINewton in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.

  i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.

  i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.

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  EdenOne

  Newton, welcome to this forum. Many of us, including me, have been in your shoes, so we understand. It'll be hard to fade, because you're too visible as an Elder, but it's possible. Step down as soon as you can and let the dust settle for a month or two. Don't accept any "privileges" in the meantime. If you have a neighboring congregation, start attending meetings there now and then, and make sure your congregation elders know about it. Be vague about your reasons. Then, start skipping a meeting now and then. In time, you know you will start be perceived as 'spiritually weak', which can be hurtful, but it's the price to pay.

  Your daughter will be grateful to you that you took this decision. My son certainly is to me. It made a huge difference in his life and personallity. If your wife leaves with you, what a great win! Let us know of your progress. And don't feel guilty, it's a waste of energy. Focus on what's to come and help your family.

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  Hello Everyone

  by MarieK in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

  i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

  needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

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  EdenOne

  Dear MarieK, welcome to this forum.

  You'll find many, many here who have experienced what you're going through now - the fear of posting for the first time on an "apostate" website (yes, those that the WT would have you believe are Satan's work), the anger of finding out that you have been duped by an organization whom you entrusted your life with, and the frustration for the wasted years serving this unworthy slavemaster. You'll find many here who will relate with your story and will offer you support. It won't be long until you feel more comfortable in expressing yourself, when you start finding out that the people who post here are just like yourself, who, one way or the other, woke up to the cold hard "truth about the truth" and could never look at the WTS the same way again.

  This forum opens the door to many excellent resources about the WTS - the kind of information that the GB so desperately warns you against because it's so damning for them.

  It's excellent to know that your husband is on your side as you both wake up to reality. That will be a great asset in the future, trust me.

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  What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

  the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

  how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

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  Finding out the blatant revisionism of their own history was the first violent wake up call that this organization was thoroughly dishonest. From then on it was all downhill.

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  BREAKING NEWS!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  breaking news from co!!

  according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.

  what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?

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  It's the final countdown!
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  List of Prominent JW Urban Legends...

  by Tuesday in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey folks,.

  i'm wondering if you all could help me with my next video that i want to put up in the next couple of days (though i'm hoping for tonight), i want to come up with a list of the most prominent urban legends surrounding jws and then refute them whatever they may be.. i'm thinking there's the urban legend about the question on jeopardy that said the nwt was the most accurate would be a good one.

  that one stems from an online powerpoint presentation named theological jeopardy and a book which was written comparing six different translations of the bible.

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  There was this one that I've heard some 30 years ago (apparently originated in South Africa):

  A JW woman is married to an unbeliever husband who opposes her relentlessly. But she stands firm in the truth and he apparently gives up. Then the memorial day comes and, out of the blue, the husband offers to drive her to the KH. She is thrilled with his changed attitude, but suddenly her drives her into the bushes instead, forces her out of the car, throws her in the ground and draws a gun, pointing at her head. He says, "This ends today". The sister closes her eyes, waiting for the shot. But instead she hears some strange sounds and the sound of something falling on the ground. She turns and finds her husband's body slashed in slices. The police, after analyzing the body, said the cuts were so precise and perfect that couldn't have been done by a human hand.

  Oh, and I also heard from a relative who's a CO, that opera singer Andrea Boccelli started a concert and couldn't sing properly. Then he stopped the performance and addressed the audience asking if there were JW's among them. He then asked them to leave and offered to refund their tickets. The reason was that the demons that would help his singing were unable to do that with JW's in the audience.

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  Education Level of GB

  by The_Doctor10 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after seeing so many topics about the stupidity of the gb, just got me wondering, anyone know the secular education levels of the gb?

  are they high school level religious zealots or are they college educated manipulators?

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  EdenOne

  The way I see it, their problem isn't in itself not having academic achievements.

  If only they had some common sense, intellectual honesty and chose not to be willingly ignorant, and surround themselves with educated, capable people ... but they choose otherwise. They're blinded by the power they're invested with and won't part with it.

  Eden