Posts by EdenOne

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Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

by Dunedain in

there were always all types of speakers in the org.

myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

EdenOne

This one I didn't witness, so I may be reproducing a JW urban legend, but here goes. In my country, soccer is the king of sports. Three local teams are arch-rivals, and people follow them, sometimes with an irrational passion. To the point that usually exhortations from the platform must be given to ask for moderation and "neutrality" and "avoidance of idolatry".

Well, this elder was delivering the public talk. It was a hot day, no A/C, so the doors and windows of the KH were opened. At the same time, a big match between two of these major teams of the league was going on, and some neighbour of the KH had the game loud on the radio. At some point, one of the teams scored a goal and the reporter on the radio screamed "goalllllllllllll!!" The speaker excitedly bursted: "goallllllllllllllllllll !!!!!!! Goal, goal, goal, brothers!!!!!!!!!" Obviously, his favorite team had just scored. The audience looked at him in shock. When he realized what he had just done, he gatherd his papers, apologized, and left the platform. He was removed from Elder after this.

Eden

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Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

by Dunedain in

there were always all types of speakers in the org.

myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

EdenOne

I remembered a second episode: this young MS was all puffed up because he thought a lot of himself, he always enjoyed looking like a smooth gangster from the 1920's, complete with hat, tie and scarf to match etc. He was a decent speaker, but at one time he was the guest speaker at our KH and his speech was a bit over the top, too confident, too authoritative for his age, as if he was a DO speaking ... It was oddly uncomfortable, but ok, bearable. Until ... about half way to his public talk he freezes. He starts looking at his papers and mumbles, hesitates and panics. He realized that there were a couple of pages missing! Then he leaves the plattform, goes to his seat, looks inside his briefcase, finds the papers, goes back to the plattform, and carries on. But the rest of his talk was a disaster, he lost it completely, very nervous, many mistakes, awful. We all thought that he deserved the lesson.

Eden

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Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

by Dunedain in

there were always all types of speakers in the org.

myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

EdenOne

When I was a teen, a local older single brother who was working on the contruction of the local Bethel (and later went on to be a special pioneer) gave a public talk that left everyone blushing.

At some point he began explaining that lesbian sex is condemned by the Bible because obviously isn't natural because during sexual relations one of the women must take on the role of a man ... Wtf?

Later he also told an experience where two single young Witnesses were secretly having sex, and they thought they wouldn't be discovered because he would (quote) "take his penis out before he climaxed". However, one day, he was so carried away that he didn't "take his penis out in time" and she ended up getting pregnant, they were discovered and disfellowshipped. The very conservative audience was blushing with the graphic descriptions offered from the plattform. A real "WTF?" moment, if I ever recall one.

Eden

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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

EdenOne

Welcome back, sbf!

Eden

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What language was Jesus most at home with?

by fulltimestudent in

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friends

our former loving brothers and sisters have been instructed to think that, jesus likely spoke a form of hebrew and a form of aramaic.

(aid to bible understanding-103-105).

of course, there is no way to demonstrate the truth of that assertion or any other assertion about the languages that the common people of the land spoke.

EdenOne

"HER" computers?

"Caleb" is/was female? That's new to me.

Also, found this at the profile: "CalebinFloroda left the building. I've taken over her body. She is mine now. Long live the republic."

What???

Eden

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Has anyone tried using gold and metal detectors?

by EdenOne in

i'm thinking about trying out a new hobby.

in my country there are plenty of places that are geologically suitable for the presence of gold nuggets.

in fact, several gold mines have been historically explored from the days of the romans until present day.. at the same time, i love archaeology and history and there are many possible unexplored archaeological sites near me that might merit a superficial survey.

EdenOne

Simon, Canada shares many geological features with my country, especially the quality of superficial quartzite veins on granite outcrops. (Where gold is usually trapped) Perhaps you might as well give it a try ...

Eden

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Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!

by The Searcher in

according to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".

http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .

the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.

EdenOne

Datsun rebranded to Nissan ; Phillip Morris rebranded to Altri ; AIG Retirement rebranded to Sagepoint Finantial; Apple Computer rebranded to Apple.

There are usually three main reasons for a corporate rebranding:

1) Elimination of a negative image

2) Attempt to recuperate market share

3) Effort to stay relevant

In 1931, Rutherford rebranded the Bible Students into Jehovah's Witnesses because his organization was struggling to remain relevant after the massive dissent following the death of Russell and the 1925 fiasco.

84 years past, and the time is ripe for another rebranding, because certainly the WTS has too many skeletons in the closet and too much of a negative public image to keep dragging behind them - blood issue, refusal to salute flag and participate on military service, paedophilia scandals, annoying evangelizing tactics, false predictions, refusal to celebrate birthdays and hollidays, family breakups, shunning ...

Eden

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Has anyone tried using gold and metal detectors?

by EdenOne in

i'm thinking about trying out a new hobby.

in my country there are plenty of places that are geologically suitable for the presence of gold nuggets.

in fact, several gold mines have been historically explored from the days of the romans until present day.. at the same time, i love archaeology and history and there are many possible unexplored archaeological sites near me that might merit a superficial survey.

EdenOne

I'm thinking about trying out a new hobby.

In my country there are plenty of places that are geologically suitable for the presence of gold nuggets. In fact, several gold mines have been historically explored from the days of the Romans until present day.

At the same time, I love archaeology and history and there are many possible unexplored archaeological sites near me that might merit a superficial survey. Besides all that, I love being in the wild. All things considered, I'm thinking it might be fun to get a gold/metal detector and give it a try. I've seen quite a few videos and it seems like fun.

Has anyone here tried it already? Any experiences you'd like to share?

Eden

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Who would you like to hear of leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses ?

by wozza in

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friends

i'll start off with this one:.

some years ago when i was formulating my exit, i employed for some time an ms brother from another congregation.. i'd had a couple of young "worldly" lads work for me but they proved unreliable as they used drugs or alchohol and consequently would'nt arrive at work and such like.. so when i was was contacted by this brother and spoke to him and heard he'd worked at the australian bethel for some time on construction and wanted an opportunity to learn the trade of bricklaying ,i thought ,"great someone to finally trust and be reliable".

he was in his 40's at the time and he worked like a trojan ,was honest ,really likeable and interesting ,could play the classical guitar beautifully ,had a beautiful family.

EdenOne

My dear sister and her family. Right now, nothing would please me more. They already have huge doubts, but they need the push that will tip them.

Eden

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City of Sodom discovered

by Saved_JW in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3270999/has-biblical-city-sodom-monstrous-site-jordan-matches-descriptions-area-destroyed-god.html

EdenOne

I'm not even debating if the city that was found can or can't be the biblical Sodom. That remains to be seen. However, the idea of an asteroid fly-by over the area (finally crashing on Köffels valley in Tirol, Austria) that caused fire and brimstone to storm the Dead Sea area and that clay tablet making reference to such event has been entirely debunked as pseudoscience.

No one has yet come up with a plausible reading of what is written in that tablet. To claim that it makes reference to an asteroid observation of 5000 years ago is nothing more than speculative wishful thinking.

Look up the article "Fire In The Sky", by Jeff Medkeff and Martin Rundkvist published on February 4, 2009 at skeptic.com

Eden