You are burning the evidence!
Only evidence that we were deluded! Anyway, you forget that for the time being I'm keeping one of each. All those were spares / duplicates ;)
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Burn, baby, burn...!
by EdenOne ini had to clear space in my shelves for new books that keep arriving.
so... out with the "old light"!
we got rid of all spares and duplicates and only kept one of each for the sake of memorabilia.
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Burn, baby, burn...!
by EdenOne ini had to clear space in my shelves for new books that keep arriving.
so... out with the "old light"!
we got rid of all spares and duplicates and only kept one of each for the sake of memorabilia.
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You now, when I was growing up, I was afraid to discard even worn out literature, thinking God would punish me for being disrespectful to his 'spiritual food'. I thought bad things might happen to me. Naturally, I grew out of that mind frame. But still up until not long ago, I would dispose of old literature in a respectful way, reasoning that maybe someone might find it, read it and find 'the truth'. Now I think the world is better off preventing this garbage to ever being read again by anybody.
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The Governing Body had a very important meeting last wednesday
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the beautiful animal paintings by paul james.. eden.
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LOL!
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Church of Scientology banned in Moscow
by EdenOne init's not only jw's that get banned in moscow ... the church of scientology too, deemed a "cult" and banned.. eden.
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It's not only JW's that get banned in Moscow ... the Church of Scientology too, deemed a "cult" and banned.
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Burn, baby, burn...!
by EdenOne ini had to clear space in my shelves for new books that keep arriving.
so... out with the "old light"!
we got rid of all spares and duplicates and only kept one of each for the sake of memorabilia.
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I had to clear space in my shelves for new books that keep arriving. So... out with the "old light"! We got rid of all spares and duplicates and only kept one of each for the sake of memorabilia. For now ...
In doing his, i was only keeping the Watchtower Society's own sound advice:
And also following the fine example set by those Christians in Ephesus, as per the Book of Acts:
That pesky "Revelation Climax" book was the one that took longer to burn. Must be all those demunz in it.
It felt great - freedom!
And just because it's the song that inspired the title of this thread...
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Just read "Zealot - The Life And Times Of Jesus Of Nazareth"
by EdenOne inso, keeping in mind that mrs. eden isn't so comfortable with english, i have been searching for books on the subject of the historical jesus and who wrote the bible, and i got very frustrated because there's not a lot of those in my native language.
most of what i read in english simply hasn't been translated, which is a shame.
in any case, i managed to get two: bart ehrman's "misquoting jesus" and reza aslan's "zealot".
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Bart Ehrman is a sad figure.
That article that you've linked to is the finished example of ad hominem driven by utter religious bias and hate, not evidence-based knowledge. Garbage can worth material. And, by the way, the book that motivates that article in question isn't even Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus" or even "Jesus, Interrupted", which I make reference to in this thread. Rather, it's Ehrman's "God's Problem", in which he discusses his personal reasons for becoming agnostic, namely how he feels the Bible doesn't provide an answer to the problem of evil. So, Perry, you bring out a critique abut an author, as if his agnosticism precludes him from having a correct assessment of the textual problems within the Bible. The conclusion you draw is what, in fact, is indeed sad. Because, by the same token, non-muslims cannot make informed assessments about Islam's fundamentalism because they're not believers of the Quram.
The author of the article concludes his drivel by saying:
"There is nothing unrighteous about the God of the Bible, but He is God and He does not have to answer to man. God is justified by those who believe."
Enough said. The Almighty can do no wrong, even when he commands wholesale killings of men, women and children and animals, for good measure too. No wonder the entity responsible for publishing this drivel identifies itself as:
"Way of Life Literature's Fundamental Baptist Information Service, an e-mail listing for Fundamental Baptists and other fundamentalist, Bible-believing Christians."
Sure, the world needs more fundamentalists.
To quote Bruce Bawer, in "Stealing Jesus - How Fundamentalism Betrays Jesus" (1997)
"the problem with legalistic Christianity is not simply that it affirms that God can be evil; it's that it imagines a manifestly evil God and calls that evil good.
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter." - Isaiah 5:20
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Why does the Watchtower leadership slap its own defenders in the face?
by slimboyfat intake the case of rolf furuli.
i don't think there has been a specific thread on the hebrew verbs u-turn in the nwt, and how the society has responded to the work of perhaps their brightest and ablest defender in their history.
so here goes.. rolf furuli has defended jws on multiple fronts in many different settings, on issues ranging from chronology, mental health, doctrines, bible translation and the blood issue.
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Besides, they value "spiritual qualifications" [i.e. unquestioning obedience] over expertise [which usually results in people "puffed with pride"].
As a result, you get what you've paid for.
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"Obey" or "Be persuaded" at Hebrews 13.17
by Wonderment invarious posters have apparently concluded that the wt society is wrong by quoting hebrews 13.17 as a reason for christians to submit to, and be "obedient" to those taking the lead among them.
they have pointed out that the greek word for obedience is "hypakouo" or some other, not "pei'tho" which is the one that appears in the beginning of verse 17 at hebrews ch.
their motive for their objections may be one of rancor brought about by the extreme authoritative measures the society have imposed on the brotherhood.
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The espistole known as "Hebrews" wasn't written by Paul - there's a wide consensus amongst scholars about that. But it was written from a Pauline prespective. It was likely written by a well educated greek speaking collaborator of Paul as some sort of phostumous work of Paul, or meant to be regarded as such. The ruthless attack to the Law and and jewish rituals as having been superseeded and made obsolete by Jesus' priesthood in heaven is entirely a Pauline vision. But this vision was in itself build in opposition to the original core of apostles who walked with Christ, who were based in Jerusalem.
Since the letter makes no reference to the destruction of the Temple; it's written in a more refined way than the other genuine letters of Paul; Timothy is referenced as still being alive (13:23); and Clement of Alexandria makes reference to it in 95 CE; it is believed to have been written shortly after Paul's death and around the time of the breakout of the first judean war; therefore 65/66 CE.
The reference to "obedience" to those taking the lead among them without making also a reference to the apostles in Jerusalem (James the Just brother of Jesus and John son of Zebedee, or Judas brother of Jesus, the leadership of the mother congregation in Jerusalem) all the while defending anti-Torah ideas that were completely at odds with the general orientation of the church in Jerusalem - therefore, apostate - is a clear attack to the orthodox christianity as represented by the jamesian tradition. It was Paul that established episkopos and diakonos in the congregations, not James. It was Paul who appointed travelling overseers to make these appointments in the congregations that he himself had established, not James.
You have to understand this appeal to obedience to the local "authority" in the broader context of the struggle between two different and antagonic apostolic authorities: the twelve, and Paul. If someone is still in the mind frame that the church in the first century was a unity, that someone still has a long way ahead to educate himself/herself.
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heart troubles
by zeb indear all,.
my health took a beating over the years with stress from various sources, not a little from the wt; and dangerous areas of work involving fumes and so on.
the arc also took its toll and i have had recently a heart attack.
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Zeb, I wish you a successful surgery, and hopefully this won't be your last post. See you soon!
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