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  In the Shadow of Sin-Portuguese documentary

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/8ue3--fnsh8.

  the portuguese channel tvi in portugal, broadcast this documentary in october 2015 about jehovah's witnesses.

  child abuse, shunning, blood transfusions and many other topics were mentioned in this report.the documentary makers asked for a response from the leadership of jehovahs witnesses to the damaging statements made by survivors of child abuse and domestic violence.

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  Well, I saw the video on the day after it was shown on TVI. I think it felt short, it could have been much more powerful. They inserted too much abstract footage and music as fillers and left a lot of substance out. Nevertheless it was factually correct, which is a rare thing in investigative journalism in Portugal when it comes to JWs. The most powerful moments were when José Carlos Malato (portuguese TV personality, whom I knew when I was a kid) spoke about his experience and how he struggled with his homosexuallity within the JWs; and also when three JWs disassociated live on camera. Apart from that, I have found it a bit of a missed opportunity. In any case, I know it shook a few people.

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  The watchtowers view on Rape!!! must see

  by Khaleesi in

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  2. scandals

  this person did a great job putting this together... i am disgusted with wt policies & them acting both judge & jurywatch "noonespecial - rapists - jw" on .

  youtube.

  https://youtu.be/lwufz7gyozm.

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  That was VERY disturbing.

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  Need your help - Shunning essay

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wrote this one the other thread, but maybe it gets lost in it.. i'm considering adding one section to my essay on the subject of shunning.

  perhaps it may evolve into a book.

  i think it would add considerable weight to it if i would include two or three real life stories of people who suffered shunning.

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  Shameless bump
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  "Why don't you just call yourself an atheist?"

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the best answer to this question ever.

  i don't tire listening to it.

  "i am not, i am not simply the one who says 'i'" .

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  I won't call myself an atheist but I believe in your right to think I am.

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  Need your help - Shunning essay

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wrote this one the other thread, but maybe it gets lost in it.. i'm considering adding one section to my essay on the subject of shunning.

  perhaps it may evolve into a book.

  i think it would add considerable weight to it if i would include two or three real life stories of people who suffered shunning.

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  I wrote this one the other thread, but maybe it gets lost in it.

  I'm considering adding one section to my essay on the subject of shunning. Perhaps it may evolve into a book. I think it would add considerable weight to it if I would include two or three real life stories of people who suffered shunning. I would also like to add at least one story of someone who was forced to shun another person to illustrate the consequences that shunning has on both ends of it. Also, if someone was disfellowshipped because he/she refused to shun a disfellowshipped person, I would also like to know about it.

  If you have a poignant personal story, that involves broken family relations (parents shunning children or vice-versa, siblings shunning each other, friendships broken, divorces, job loss in retaliation for disfellowshipping etc) and where the consequences have resulted in psychological trauma, destructive behavior, suicide ... I will be interested to hear about it. Of particular interest is a story of shunning after someone denouncing a case of child abuse, fraud, etc in the Organization. Naturally real names won't be disclosed. But keep in mind, it should be a poignant story that illustrate the dramatic effects of shunning. (For example, I have been experiencing shunning, but I don't find my story particularly poignant)

  Please contact me, either via IM or to my email [email protected]

  Thank you

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  SHUNNING - Unchristian Psychological Torture

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some time ago, i wrote an extensive article on shunning and published it on my website.

  since that website had views on doctrinal matters that no longer reflect my current stand, i took the website down.

  however, my views on this matter are still current, and for the benefit of everyone here, i'm going to post the article here.

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  I'm considering adding one section to my essay on the subject of shunning. I think it would add considerable weight to it if I would include two or three real life stories of people who suffered shunning. I would also like to add at least one story of someone who was forced to shun another person to illustrate the consequences that shunning has on both ends of it. Also, if someone was disfellowshipped because he/she refused to shun a disfellowshipped person, I would also like to know about it.

  If you have a poignant personal story, that involves broken family relations (parents shunning children or vice-versa, siblings shunning each other, friendships broken, divorces, job loss in retaliation for disfellowshipping etc) and where the consequences have resulted in psychological trauma, destructive behavior, suicide ... I will be interested to hear about it. Of particular interest is a story of shunning after someone denouncing a case of child abuse, fraud, etc in the Organization. Naturally real names won't be disclosed. But keep in mind, it should be a poignant story that illustrate the dramatic effects of shunning. (For example, I have been experiencing shunning, but I don't find my story particularly poignant)

  Please contact me, either via IM or to my email [email protected]

  Thank you

  Eden
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  Have the Governing Body caught themselves out in a lie?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  all sorts of suspected deception going on surrounding the cutbacks and the reasons for them.

  but hard to pin down a direct falsehood.

  sure, they initially said they were reducing the magazines so the brothers had less to read, then later said it was to save money.

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  Could it be that the grossly miscalculated the cost of moving from a printing-based operation (which the knew he ins and outs and were fairly efficient with) to a full multimedia production based enterprise?

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  Australian Royal Commission Findings released

  by Mephis in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  will just post the general findings by counsel for the commission (angus stewart) - case specific ones are prior to them.

  in short, absolutely damning.. not been through every submission myself yet.

  available for download here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx.

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  Pretty damning ... It's looking grimm for the WTS in Australia ...

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  SHUNNING - Unchristian Psychological Torture

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some time ago, i wrote an extensive article on shunning and published it on my website.

  since that website had views on doctrinal matters that no longer reflect my current stand, i took the website down.

  however, my views on this matter are still current, and for the benefit of everyone here, i'm going to post the article here.

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  Ok, I've done the final tweaks to improve readability. You can now convert it to pdf and the formatting will be correct on different browsers - I hope ;) Many thanks to Oubliette for the great coaching!

  I've also added some more content and reworked some of the phrasing to improve clarity.

  There comes a time where one has to say it's finished.

  Shunning - Unchristian Psychological Torture

  It's now completed and available freely through Google Docs. I wish I could have added a couple of real life stories. Maybe next time. I hope you find it useful. As usual, it's up for debate if you will.

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  SHUNNING - Unchristian Psychological Torture

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some time ago, i wrote an extensive article on shunning and published it on my website.

  since that website had views on doctrinal matters that no longer reflect my current stand, i took the website down.

  however, my views on this matter are still current, and for the benefit of everyone here, i'm going to post the article here.

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  Some changes made to the Google Docs file (Thanks for the coaching, Oub!)

  Front page and table of contents page added, plus some other minor content items.

  Eden