I'm speculating here, but, seems plausible to me that he got disfellowshipped last week, appealed, his appeal came back rejected, and this week his disfellowshipping was announced in the mid-week meeting. The time (9:00 pm) seems consistent with the time when the announcement would be made to the congregation. He could have exacted his vengeance at that moment.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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Just to summarize what the user + is writing in german:
The perpetrator seems to be a Phillip Fusz, 35. At some point this man with an evangelical upbringing and academic and professional background in finance joined the JWs. He lost his financial business during the pandemic and found solace in the Bible (his theology seems clearly influenced by the JW worldview). In December 2022 he self-published a book on Amazon with his theological views, titled "The Truth About God, Jesus Christ and Satan". In the beginning of March 2023 he faced a Judicial Hearing and was disfellowshipped (for apostasy, I presume).
Taken from the synopsis: "This book is a standard reference when it comes to Theology & Law. This book is a must read for all persons who hold a function or leading position in the fields of economy, science, politics and entertainment, and also for all religious persons." Seems like a deeply disturbed individual with a oversized notion of his self.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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Death toll rose to 8 people.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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Very unlikely to be an islamic attack because the perpetrator would not have suicided,
Indeed, I wrote that before it became known that the shooter probably committed suicide inside the building. It's starting to feel like it was personal. -
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are as humans as anyone else and therefore exposed to the same dangers as everyone else. This time it was their turn to be targeted, and there wasn't any supernatural intervention to spare them from harm. On one hand, it says that they're no different than everyone else; on the other hand it says they're not some special breed.
Nobody deserves to die while gathered peacefully as a community to worship. Then again, I'm sure the question in many people's minds will be: Where was Jehovah? Where was Jesus? Where were the angels? The way the Watchtower spins it, everytime the JWs are engaged in Jehovah's service, they're under special protection from their enemies; yet time and time again that idea is proven false.
Think about the tremendous earthquake that destroyed Lisbon in 1755. It took place on November 1st at 09:00 when the churches were packed with believers attending mass for All Saints Day. Thousands died when the church buildings collapsed over them. Where was God then? That tragedy led many to dare to question their beliefs, like Voltaire, paving the way for modern secularism. Likewise, I'm sure this senseless tragedy will cause many JWs to pause and start thinking too if what they've been taught is truth or vaporware.
My heart goes out to those whose life is forever changed by this tragedy. Nobody deserves to die like this. Nobody deserves the trauma they're going to have to endure for the rest of their lives.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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German police is now saying that there's no shooter on the run. Which means that the shooter may be among the dead. That being the case, and since we know JWs don't carry weapons for selfdefense, perhaps the shooter committed suicide?
From Associated Press:
"Vehren said police were alerted to the shooting about 9:15 p.m. and were on the scene quickly. He said that after officers arrived, they heard a shot from an upper floor and found a person upstairs who may have been a shooter. He said police did not have to use their firearms.
Vehren said there was no immediate indication that a shooter was on the run and that it appeared likely that the perpetrator or perpetrators were either in the building or among the dead."https://apnews.com/article/germany-shooting-hamburg-fb175f5bcc195d9c32df0b1a49aea5ae
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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This could also be a terrorist attack in the classic sense, targeting a Christian church. To me that's the most plausible scenario, but the possibility of a disgruntled person linked with the congregation is also not to be discarded.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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https://www.fox3now.com/at-least-six-people-dead-and-several-injured-after-a-shooting-in-hamburg-germany-jehovahs-witnesses-district-of-alsterdorf-active-shooter-deelboge-street-in-the-grosborstel-district/
https://www.the-sun.com/news/7593486/hamburg-shooting-six-shot-several-more-injured/amp/
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/09/six-killed-and-others-wounded-in-hamburg-shooting
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/03/09/europe/hamburg-germany-shooting-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.dw.com/en/several-people-reported-dead-in-shooting-in-hamburg/a-64938984
https://amp.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/schuesse-hamburg-tote-100.html
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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Mass shooting at a Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany this evening. At least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured. Single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters. Story still developing.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-hamburg-mass-shooting-six-29419580.amp
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Mesquite Mountain
by peacefulpete inok, the title may make more sense for those who enjoy grilling.
horeb (aka sinai).
most students of the ot are fully aware of the documentary hypothesis in some form, in short it is near universally recognized that the book of exodus, for example, is the composite work of a redactor who has collected the traditions of the judahite and israelite people.
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First time I run into that explanation. Thx