i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
But the plain meaning of Psalm 102 remains clear: the earth will perish.
OK then, if that is what your discernment tells you, I just hope that I am on the earth when it perishes…rather it is due to being one that made it through the GT or was due to being a resurrected one after the GT.
i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
if the author of Psalm 102 wished to say that the difference between God and the earth is that the earth could perish whereas God cannot perish, then he could have said so.
Proverbs 2:3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment.
Proverbs 3: 13 Happy is the man that has found wisdom, and the man that gets discernment, 14 for having it as gain is better than having silver as gain and having it as produce than gold itself. 15 It is more precious than corals, and all other delights of yours cannot be made equal to it
(James 1:5) So,
if any one of YOU is lacking in wisdom, let him keep on asking God, for he
gives generously to all and without reproaching; and it will be given him.
(Philippians 1:9) And this is what I continue praying, that YOUR love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment;
(2 Timothy 2:7) Give constant thought to what I am saying; the Lord will really give you discernment in all things.
discernment: the quality of being able to grasp and comprehend what is obscure
doesn't give you the right to rewrite it to say what you wish it would say.
I suppose that those that want to interpret any and all writings that give the impression that ‘the earth will perish’ have the right to ignore any and all writings that give the impression that the earth will remain forever with the righteous themselves residing on it.
the NWT has a declared policy of using "Jehovah" in the NT where it quotes an OT passage. Why was this policy not followed in Hebrews 1:10?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darby_Bible
In the Old Testament Darby translates the covenant name of
God as "Jehovah" instead of
rendering it "LORD" or "GOD" (in all capital letters) as
most English translations do. Among other widely used translations only Robert Young's Literal Translation, the American Standard Version (1901),
and the Jehovah's Witnesses' New World Translation (1950)
have followed this practice. The footnotes of many editions (such as the 1961
Modified Notes Edition) of Darby Bible's New Testament indicate where
"Lord" ("Kurios" in Greek) in the scripture text probably
refers to Jehovah.
The 1961 Modified Notes Edition of the Darby Bible includes the 1871 New
Testament Preface, which says in part "All the instances in which the
article is wanting before Kurios are not marked by brackets; but I give here
all the passages in which Kurios, which the LXX employ for Jehovah, thence
transferred to the New Testament, is used as a proper name; that is, has the
sense of 'Jehovah.'" It then gives a listing of those places.
i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
64 When Re·bek´ah raised her eyes, she caught sight of Isaac and she swung herself down from off the camel
4 But this very John had his clothing of camel’s hair and a leather girdle around his loins; his food too was insect locusts and wild honey.
24 Again I say to YOU, It is easier for a camel to get through a needle’s eye than for a rich man to get into the kingdom of God.”
24 Blind guides, who strain out the gnat but gulp down the camel!
I would be willing to bet that she literally got down off of a literal camel and John’s clothing was literally made from literal camel’s hair but I would say that getting a camel through the eye of a needle or gulping down a camel is not to be taken in a literal sense...
i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
Texts such as Psalm 102:25, 26 that speak of the heaven and earth as ‘perishing’ and as ‘being replaced like a worn-out garment’ are not to be understood in a literal sense.
At Luke 21:33, Jesus says that “heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will by no means pass away.” The sense of this expression seems to be like that of Matthew 5:18: “Truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away [or, “it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away”; Lu 16:17] than for one smallest letter or one particle of a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place.”
Psalm 102:25-27 stresses God’s eternity and imperishability, whereas his physical creation of heavens and earth is perishable, that is, it could be destroyed if such were God’s purpose. Unlike God’s eternal existence, the permanence of any part of his physical creation is not independent. As seen in the earth, the physical creation must undergo a continual renewing process if it is to endure or retain its existing form. The physical heavens and earth are dependent on God’s will and sustaining power and he intends to bring to ruin those ruining the earth. (Revelation 11:18)
The words of Psalm 102:25, 26 apply to Jehovah God, but the apostle Paul quotes them with reference to Jesus Christ. This is because God’s only-begotten Son was God’s personal Agent employed in creating the physical universe. Paul contrasts the Son’s permanence with that of the physical creation, which God, if he so designed, could ‘wrap up just as a cloak’ and set aside. (Heb 1:1, 2, 8, 10-12)
i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
reading into Scriptures what is not there. For instance, how are you quoting Matthew 25:46 "And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” as discussing living forever on a paradise earth?
Psalm 37:29The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it.
Personally, I feel the Bible strongly shows that there is no everlasting future for this planet,
Psalm 37:29The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it.
Matthew 25:46 "And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”
and the expectation of early Christians was heavenly
That is very true but in their hope and expectation of heavenly life did that mean that there was no earthly life…
Philippians 3:8 Why, for that matter, I do indeed also consider all things to be loss on account of the excelling value of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord. On account of him I have taken the loss of all things and I consider them as a lot of refuse, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in union with him, having, not my own righteousness, which results from law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness that issues from God on the basis of faith, 10 so as to know him and the power of his resurrection and a sharing in his sufferings, submitting myself to a death like his, 11 to see if I may by any means attain to the earlier resurrection from the dead. 12 Not that I have already received it or am already made perfect, but I am pursuing to see if I may also lay hold on that for which I have also been laid hold on by Christ Jesus. 13 Brothers, I do not yet consider myself as having laid hold on [it]; but there is one thing about it: Forgetting the things behind and stretching forward to the things ahead, 14 I am pursuing down toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God by means of Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep in death, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed
Matthew 24:31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.
Revelation 20:6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.
If Paul was trying to attain the first resurrection/earlier resurrection which is the upward calling (to heavenly life) and the fact that it mentions that there is a first/earlier resurrection would seem to indicate that there is at least another/2nd resurrection and if so then being that the first is the upward calling (heavenly) then would it not be fair to say that the 2nd is earthly being that it is stated that:
Matthew 5:5 “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.
Ps. 37:29: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it
Psalm 37:11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of
peace.
i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
Nowhere is it stated that the law will not end (pass away) but just that it will not do so without fulfillment of that of what is said to have to take place in order to do so…
Romans 7:6 But now we have been discharged from the Law, because we have died to that by which we were being held fast, that we might be slaves in a new sense by the spirit, and not in the old sense by the written code.
Colossians 2:14 and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us; and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.
Ephesians 2:15 By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees, that he might create the two peoples in union with himself
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness.
i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
Jesus words Matt.5:18 "For assuredly, I say to you,till heaven and earth pass away".
How about citing the FULL context:
Matthew 5:17 “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill; 18 for truly I say to YOU that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one particle of a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place.
On the one hand his written word indicates that the world will pass away, not endure for ever , then on the other hand he indicates that it will
The physically earth did not pass away after either of the two said events occurred:
2 Peter 2:5 and he did not hold back from punishing an ancient world, but kept Noah, a preacher of righteousness, safe with seven others when he brought a deluge upon a world of ungodly people; 6 and by reducing the cities Sod´om and Go·mor´rah to ashes he condemned them, setting a pattern for ungodly persons of things to come; 7 and he delivered righteous Lot,
Is there any real verse in the Bible talking about a ''paradise earth''? I've always wondered that.
(Genesis 2:15) And Jehovah God proceeded to take the man and settle him in the garden* of E´den to cultivate it and to take care of it.
* The Septuagint rendered the Hebrew word for “garden” (gan) by the Greek word pa·ra´dei·sos. To this fact we owe our association of the English word “paradise” with the garden of Eden.
(Genesis 1:28) Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.”
(Psalm 115:16) As regards the heavens, to Jehovah the heavens belong, But the earth he has given to the sons of men.
Isaiah
55:11 so my word that goes forth
from my mouth will prove to be. It will not return to me without results, but
it will certainly do that in which I have delighted, and it will have certain
success in that for which I have sent it.
i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
Ecclesiastes 1:4 A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite
Rev. 11:17, 18: “We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time . . . to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”
Psalm 104:5 He has founded the earth upon its established places; It will not be made to totter to time indefinite, or forever.
Matthew 5:5 “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.
Ps. 37:29: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it
Matthew 25:46 And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”
Proverbs 2:21 For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it.
Psalm 37:9 For evildoers themselves will be cut off, But those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth.
mans requirements are limited which can be satisfied with a little and tension-free endeavor..
however man attempts not only to collect but also to grab and amass everything to the excess.
somehow he feels that he can be happy only when he has in abundance whereas others have nothingwhich seems to be the thread that runs throughout the history.
No need to bump…I just have decided that it would be in vain to try to continue to discuss this with you being that you are showing that you are unable to comprehend and apply what I have said so far.
You keep bringing a God and bible accounts that you don’t believe exist into the conversation.
You have not cited the accounts in the bible that you are using as your examples so that we can see the context in which these examples you are using.
You have not addressed how individual cops/military personally, etc…how in there home day to day life could be loving friendly and non violent, people, good fathers and husbands but yet are able to shoot/bomb and kill people when they are given the commands from their fellow just by chance in existence leaders.
How there are many people who would dare not hunt/harm deer, etc…and others do it for sport and yet the same people or would not hunt/harm animals, but if in a situation of a need for food, would fine themselves shooting deer/animals, etc.
I could go on and on but like I said, it would be in vain.
Anyway, you can respond however you want to this but I won’t be.
jehovah`s christian witnesses , as they like to be known as , used to worship jesus in earlier times ,but now they do not worship jesus .
they worship a god named jehovah , who they admitted in the first edition of " aid to bible understanding " was not the correct pronunciation of the tetragrammaton `s four letter hebrew letters that represented god` name , by the way , a catholic monk of the 13th century came up with jehovah by just adding a couple of vowels.. to those four hebrew letters .which has since been revised to correctly translate the tetragrammaton as yhwh and many scholars put this name more accurately as yahweh or something more similar.. fact 1 .
the tetragrammaton does not appear in the " kingdom interlinear of christian greek scriptures " printed by the wtb&ts , a word for word translation of the greek scriptures.
Thank you for your reply. Also I am glad that you mentioned the J and Y point. Is English your first language and if so do you have any objection to pronouncing and spelling the following names with the J instead of the Y and with an I instead of a Y???
Eng.>Jehoshua/Yehoshua<Heb.
Eng.>Jehoshaphat/Yehoshaphat<Heb.
Eng.>Zechariah/Zekharyah<Heb.
those names Jehoshua and Jehoshaphat start with a Y and not a J , as did Yesus instead of Jesus ,Hebrew not having a "J" sound .
On your above statement would you agree that the form of the word Yesus/Jesus was not found within the Hebrew scriptures but instead the form for that name found in them would have been Jehoshua/Yehoshua (long form) or Joshua/Yeshua (shorten form)???
And that when it comes to getting the form Yesus/Jesus it is based on translating Joshua/Yeshua into Greek which is Iesous and then translating Iesous into Latin which is Iesus and then translating Iesus into English which is Jesus…do you agree with all said thus far???
And apparently bending the Knee to Jesus is also an act of worship which now they refuse to do , yet the scriptures say is O.K.
YES, this is what the scriptures clearly say on that:
Philippians 2:10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those
under the ground, 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge
that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
