Posts by AverageJoe1

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Get baptised or die!

by AverageJoe1 in

so it would seem that the wts are going back to their old scare tactics again, going by this week’s watchtower study.. loyal baptized ones will be preserved when the present wicked world meets its end.

(mark 13:10; rev.

7:9, 10) this makes dedication and baptism very important.

AverageJoe1

Another classic from this week’s WT study, again with their fear-mongering and blackmailing. Yes, don’t give your kids exhaustive knowledge of the Bible or they’ll see all the inconsistencies and realise they don’t need to get baptised at all. Best yet, they won’t find out until it is too late that they are making a lifetime commitment to the WTS that they will never be free from without being shunned by family and friends.

An exhaustive knowledge is not required before a person can make a dedication to God and get baptized.

Accountability to Jehovah is not founded on the act of getting baptized. Rather, a child is accountable to God when the child knows what is right and what is wrong in Jehovah’s eyes.

However, they should never lose sight of their goal—to have their children become Christian disciples. With that in mind, parents will want to consider the question, ‘Does my child have sufficient knowledge to make a dedication to God and get baptized?’

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New brochure about donations.

by Ray Frankz in

in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

they did get bothered with that talk.

AverageJoe1

Is this available to download? Never realised there was a new brochure. These guys really do like to shoot themselves in the foot!

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BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!

by Atlantis in

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2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.

AverageJoe1

Don’t be too sure. The letter we received in our congs about beards was a copy and paste, almost IDENTICAL letter to one received by another cong in the province from Bethel.

The WTS are way too lazy to even send personal and original letters. All they do is copy and paste from their Branch Manual of “ready made” answers.

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EXJW Fifth Interviews Jason Wynne - Founder of AvoidJW.org

by Wakanda in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bahseeaoof8.

simply fabulous.

ps.

AverageJoe1

Jason is a great human being and a perfect example of humility and the way to be a great activist.

He has managed to keep a sense of humour despite the insjustices suffered at the hands of WT. I love his ideals and why he started AvoidJW: much more noble than the WT.

After watching the video I’ll be having a Guinness in his honour. Hats off to Fifth for a fantastic interview.

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David Splanes how to get everyone to agree when voting in elders meetings

by Kevin McFree in

https://youtu.be/j3htfvmgr50.

AverageJoe1

Brilliant! Sad but true. That’s why you get ridiculous rules such as bans on beards being debated for hours and hours. They are not in the Bible. Now they’ve admitted you just need to read their publications, discussion over. Silly me. Here was me thinking they used the Bible!

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Get baptised or die!

by AverageJoe1 in

so it would seem that the wts are going back to their old scare tactics again, going by this week’s watchtower study.. loyal baptized ones will be preserved when the present wicked world meets its end.

(mark 13:10; rev.

7:9, 10) this makes dedication and baptism very important.

AverageJoe1

My thoughts exactly @Sparrowdown!

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Get baptised or die!

by AverageJoe1 in

so it would seem that the wts are going back to their old scare tactics again, going by this week’s watchtower study.. loyal baptized ones will be preserved when the present wicked world meets its end.

(mark 13:10; rev.

7:9, 10) this makes dedication and baptism very important.

AverageJoe1

So it would seem that the WTS are going back to their old scare tactics again, going by this week’s Watchtower study.

loyal baptized ones will be preserved when the present wicked world meets its end. (Mark 13:10; Rev. 7:9, 10) This makes dedication and baptism very important. A person who needlessly delays getting baptized endangers his prospects for everlasting life.

This kind of reasoning by my family is what made me get baptised. I was scared out of my wits of getting killed by God at Armageddon. Read between the lines in that above quote. JWs DO believe that all non-witnesses will be destroyed at Armageddon. If you’re not a loyal and baptised Witness,, then you’re not going to make it! All through the article it stresses how you need to be a baptised JW (other Christian religions don’t count apparently) to be saved.

On a side note, I read the following quote and thought it could be used by those who want to leave the organisation legitimately...

Understandably, an individual could not make a valid dedication to God while engaging in any conduct that would exclude him from the Kingdom.

We already know that the GB won’t accept a plea of your baptism not being valid but here in this article it refers to the step before your baptism and it clearly states that God won’t have accepted your dedication if you were doing bad stuff when you made it. Therefore your baptism can hardly be valid either. If God won’t accept it then who are the GB to say otherwise?

Any thoughts?

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How many people have been woken up by the A.R.C??

by karter in

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i know of 1 that watched the video and never went back.. i think for some it was a the sum of the total or the "last straw" if you like.. karter..

AverageJoe1

Me!!! It was a huge eye-opener.

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Clarification needed re shunning policy

by UnshackleTheChains in

i am in the process of writing to parliament about the practice of shunning by jehovah's witnesses.

what i need to clarify if the practice is 'specifically' mentioned in any of the books used for bible study/ recruitment leading up to baptism?.

i would be grateful if anyone could clarify this in case i get my facts wrong when writing my letter..

AverageJoe1

And you thought the Pharisees were over-the-top with their laws!!!

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"The last DAYS?"

by eyeuse2badub in

i was asked last sunday, after a meeting that i attended with my wife, by a good friend if i believed that these were indeed the "last days".

what prompted his question was the public talk given by a young man that i have known since he was 7 years old and is now an elder at 30.. the talk made mention several times that we are 'definitely' living in the "last days".

i assume that the expression "last days" was prominent in the outline.. i hope that he way i answered my friend's question jump started his thinking.

AverageJoe1

Excellent reasoning, @Sir82! I might use that one myself.