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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

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this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

Journeyman

I am literally minutes from Lumberton... this sickens me

silentbuddha - sounds like you might have to take one for the team and do some scouting around to see if it's true that AMIII is in that neck of the woods!

Not for any other reason than to put the rumours to bed, one way or another - I do not advocate any other kind of action - but many people would love to know just where the man has been exiled to (if that be the case).

Perhaps Lloyd Evans can give him some tips. (But not fashion ones).

Oh 'evans no! The last thing we need is another bloke taking any kind of tips from Lloyd... it's bad enough that Tibor might already be a Lloyd-in-training...

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Biden running in 2024 🤣

by LoveUniHateExams in

i've filed this under news and world events, although i could've posted it under entertainment, lol.

apparently, joe biden will be seeking re-election for another term in the white house.. this, despite a recent poll showing that 70% of people don't want him to run again.. biden just has to be the worst president i've seen.

his gaffes, over-relience on a prompter, and, more than any other president, his refusal to answer journalists' questions, all go to make him top of the list in terms of bad presidents.. it will certainly provide entertainment, if nothing else..

Journeyman

Oh for crying out loud. The world needs new leadership, everywhere. We are in a terrible state. End the wars. End the profiteering at the expense of the health and welfare of the mass population.

Slim is absolutely right. In the midst of the worst military crisis in Europe for decades and with the war drums being beaten in the South China Sea area between AUKUS, China and many other nations, this story got little attention but is a major indicator of what the real priority in the world is today for many leaders and corporations:

Mass slaughter and suffering is big business!

Now more than ever, the world needs a better choice of leader of the so-called "free world" than between Trump and Biden.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/24/world-military-spending-reaches-all-time-high-of-2-24-trillion

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'I have great freeness of speech toward you.' 🤐 But remember, Saint Paul never wrote that at Bethel.😉

by was a new boy in

'i have great freeness of speech toward you.'.

2 corinthians 7:4. i had snuck into bethel with absolute perfect timing, had been taught that armageddon was likely coming either in 1974 or 1975, probably in sept. or oct. .

n h knorr invited me by letter, asking me to show up monday august 12, or was it the 19th?.

Journeyman

The WT has their own WT-speak, and to them 'freeness of speech' means the the glib recitation of the party line. It is NOT freedom of speech in the sense to verbalize what's on your mind; what you really think.

When you think how outspoken ones like Paul, James and even Jesus himself were to speak out about things they saw that were not right, you can imagine if they were in a JW congregation today the elders would have them in the back room in an instant for causing 'divisions'!

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The corrosive nature of CRT

by LoveUniHateExams in

diane abbot has been temporarily suspended from the labour party whilst they investigate her behaviour.. what's she done?.

it was leaked that a first draft of a letter she was going to write had the claim that jews can't experience racism.. the influence of crt is obvious.

according to this warped worldview, there are two types of people, oppressors and oppressed.

Journeyman

CRT makes me think of this:

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July 2023 Study Watchtower - Great Tribulation is coming soooooooooooooon!

by BoogerMan in

is this the "great tribulation" which jesus warned he would bring upon the corrupt christian congregations worldwide, (revelation 2:22; 7:14) or is it the same 1st century g.t.

which he said would never occur again?

(matthew 24:21).

Journeyman

(Proverbs 24:4) "And by knowledge will the interior rooms be filled with all precious and pleasant things of value."

Where is knowledge retained and stored? In the heart & mind?

Actually, the org are likely to say that reinforces their interpretation that the "inner/interior rooms" relates to congregations, because it parallels Haggai 2:7 which says "'And I will shake all the nations, and the precious things of all the nations will come in; and I will fill this house with glory', says Jehovah of armies."

They interpret the "precious things" to mean 'honest-hearted' people who come into the congregations, so they would probably say the same about Proverbs 24:4, as "precious" new ones are drawn to the congregation by "taking in knowledge" about God.

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The corrosive nature of CRT

by LoveUniHateExams in

diane abbot has been temporarily suspended from the labour party whilst they investigate her behaviour.. what's she done?.

it was leaked that a first draft of a letter she was going to write had the claim that jews can't experience racism.. the influence of crt is obvious.

according to this warped worldview, there are two types of people, oppressors and oppressed.

Journeyman

Diane Abbott's comments are no surprise. She's one of those high-profile people who buy into, and promote, the "white man = bad, brown man = good" orthodoxy that is becoming so common now. The most sinister part of that is the 'cancelling' of history - erasing people from the historical record (removing statues, renaming buildings, censoring or re-writing history books) and trying to create false narratives about how long ethnic minorities have been around and in prominent positions in western society.

To think, a few years ago she could've become the British Home Secretary, and depending on what happens now she may yet be in a Labour cabinet if they are elected! I fear people like her will spark disorder through their ignorant race-baiting if they are successful in achieving a position of power.

There is a British Youtuber called History Debunked who I think talks a lot of sense about the way race is being distorted and portrayed in the UK these days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZVoitJAYDU

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Joined an online meeting incognito

by joey jojo in

got a link for a zoom meeting and thought id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.. guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.. 50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.

watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.

inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.. interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol..

Journeyman

There was a reddit poster who mentioned that to log into zoom you had to get approval from the elders. Wt cannot go completely on line. It will finish them.

As far as I can see, some congregations with particularly 'zealous' elders might be doing that, but I think it's a long way from that across the board yet. A lot of bodies of elders would not be happy enforcing that, in part because members of their own families like to stay online when it suits them, especially ones that have young children. It would be hard to deny access to most of the rest of the congregation under those circumstances.

I could be wrong though. It's possible the branches may issue an order to make congregations do that, if the GB feels not enough people are returning to meetings around the world over the next year or so. But I think that would also cause serious problems, with many disappearing altogether if they can no longer connect via Zoom.

But then someone on another thread recently speculated that one of the GB's goals might be to weed out the 'weak' ones and let them leave so that they can concentrate on retaining the ones who are fully indoctrinated and obedient. I think that's a self-defeating policy, but if true, this might be one way of achieving that.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

Journeyman

I noticed new material on the "Official" JW site yesterday pertaining to avoiding over drinking......

Yes, unless evidence emerges to the contrary, I do suspect drinking was the cause of, or at least contributed to, the situation. AMIII had been so obviously under the influence in a number of his talks. That and the infamous Bottlegate story of him buying large quantities of booze on a Sunday during the meeting time, though none of them conclusive of major 'sin', all added up to a suspicious pattern. Anyone who has struggled with alcohol themself or has known loved ones who has, could see signs that were pointing that way.

No doubt he'd received 'counsel' from the rest of the GB, if only to save them face, but he presumably didn't listen, and it's either that stubbornness or a specific situation where the alcohol caused embarrassment (others on this thread with possible knowledge have suggested what that might be) that tipped the scales and the rest of the GB decided to act.

I would bet Tony and they are milking their "sick" story and keeping a very low profile with online meetings...pretend or real. Tony strikes me as a proud pompous person who would be quite humiliated right now.

Indeed, which makes me wonder if we've not heard the last of this. His resentment, or lowering of his guard over time, might mean more information leaks out later, although it might not happen for some time. It also depends on whether he can actually get control of his drinking, or if he takes refuge in it more.

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Joined an online meeting incognito

by joey jojo in

got a link for a zoom meeting and thought id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.. guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.. 50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.

watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.

inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.. interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol..

Journeyman

The people that dont turn on their cameras are the same ones that trash talk and shun ex-jw's that dont buy into it anymore, yet they cant even turn on their cameras to encourage others?

I suppose, although I never bought into the whole "turn on your camera to encourage the brothers" thing during the meetings. Afterwards when they used to meet in breakout rooms, ok fine, but not during the meeting. After all, no-one sits facing all the congregation at the hall, watching their faces during a meeting (unless you're the 'brother' sitting on the platform to read the WT study, but that's another issue)!

It seemed just a way for the elders to monitor everyone was dressed appropriately and at their device for the whole time. Too intrusive. Some congregations were more aggressive about that during lockdown than others, but in my experience it seems now they're more interested in who is physically at the meetings - the elders around my way no longer bother making comments asking people online to turn on their cameras.

773

Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

Journeyman

Age and health definitely seems unlikely, given that all the other elderly GB members have stayed to the end despite their age or infirmity. As has been pointed out, Herd and Losch themselves are still there despite also becoming more frail and possibly borderline senile now. The GB usually get the best care from Bethel.

More likely, he either had a major difference over doctrine or procedure with the rest of the GB, or he was caught out in some indiscretion (possibly linked to drunkenness, as has been speculated). We may not find out for a long time, depending on how well the "friends" close ranks to protect him, but it will probably leak out eventually.

Smart move on Watchtower's part to be the landlord. Few people bite the hand that feeds them.

Also keeps him in their sphere of influence. He knows too much about 'where the bodies are buried' to be allowed to completely leave the circle of the GB. That also suggests that whatever he said or did, he's obviously not turned apostate, as some had wondered/hoped. What will be interesting is if he becomes resentful or careless over time, and lets slip some clues as to what happened.