WHY KIM WHY?????
6820 - only two things missing to make that an epic meme: the dodgy bleached hair and the neckbeard!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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6820 - I don't know if that's a genuine account or not, but either way his offer makes him sound desperate for content. Surely not!
Kim - I just spilled my tea and it's all your fault!
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If Carey W. Barber were still alive, he'd be in this picture waving the book he sold Muhammad Ali.
by was a new boy ina pioneer sister, from a neighboring congregation, told us back in 1972, the visiting co, carey w. barber was working their territory and went in to ali's training camp.
ali was working out in the ring while barber preached to him.
the 'campaign' was the peace and security book.. .
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But he did have some links with Jehovah's Witnesses.
True. I know several brothers who would make a point about that, which in a way is exactly what I'm talking about. Because he had some link with JWs, he was often talked about in more reverential terms, which seems somewhat contrary to the supposed "impartiality" and "neutrality" in the doctrine.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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So while he's been pratting around writing and performing awful songs and posting unrelated stuff on Twitter and pointless "sushi" clips on YouTube, in the past fortnight he's missed all of the following that his supposed "career" should have had him at the forefront of:
- Rebekah Vardy documentary (Ok, that's not very significant in the scheme of things, but still...)
- Cancelled convention video leaks
- Cancelled AMIII talk video leak
- The title of the brochures in the "secret" consignment to congregations (assuming that leak proves legit, we've yet to see the actual contents)
- Regional Convention rebuttals (ExJWCaleb has so far beaten him to Day 1)So much for his "life-saving" activism being sooo important, and him being so busy with it!
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If Carey W. Barber were still alive, he'd be in this picture waving the book he sold Muhammad Ali.
by was a new boy ina pioneer sister, from a neighboring congregation, told us back in 1972, the visiting co, carey w. barber was working their territory and went in to ali's training camp.
ali was working out in the ring while barber preached to him.
the 'campaign' was the peace and security book.. .
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Interesting experiences.
Given that Ali's profession was one that is not in line with scriptural principles, why was Barber repeatedly talking of having met the man? Also, isn't that promoting a "worldly" celebrity?
Funny how COs, members of the GB and their inner circle ("helpers", etc) can get away with things that ordinary elders and lowly publishers would probably get counselled (and sometimes even have "privileges" removed) for.
Funny also how some "worldly" people get a pass to be included in "spiritual" talks and conversations if they're considered "revered" enough. I noticed the same about Nelson Mandela - a lot of brothers would talk and act as though the man was a member of the anointed or had some kind of special status, when in scriptural terms he was just another politician.
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UK Kingdom Halls for sale
by darkspilver in" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !
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Here are the 96 Scottish congregations listed on the Scottish charity register, sorted by their annual income.
It totals about £1.3m, and one congregation has over £100K by itself! I bet the Britain branch of WTBTS will want to get hold of that cash. (Although to be fair, £1.3m must be pretty small beer to them, given they have assets of over £200m and annual expenditure of £25m.)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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OMG that is awful. I mean just awful. Nasally, tone deaf, no depth, pure monotone.
I watched until 1:50 of the video then I had to turn it off.
Looks like the old saying "The Devil has all the best tunes" has been proved wrong.
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The Last Days of a Pioneer
by madisoncembre ini am starting a new topic since this blog entry is about something different.. i have posted before about my recent split with the jws.
no exit comes out of nowhere and there were seeds planted long before this.
i have never enjoyed field service.
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Field service can be enjoyable if it's talking about using Bible principles to help with day-to-day problems, learning from the example of Jesus or having a hope for a better future, but not if it's about pushing the "GB as FDS" or bigging up the "organisation", so I try to avoid those kind of topics.
I always preferred taking a Bible study or sitting in on someone else's, rather than doing first call or street work. With a study you know the householder wants you there and is at least a bit interested. Otherwise, you just feel you're disturbing people, especially if it was a stupid time like a Sunday morning (not that I often did ministry then, but sometimes you couldn't get out of it if you had a partner who insisted on it).
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UK Kingdom Halls for sale
by darkspilver in" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !
sell !
sell !
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Interesting article from a leading charities newspaper about The Kingdom Hall Trust, the body set up by the Watch Tower to seize all the halls in England and Wales.
Although the figures are not fully up-to-date, there are some useful numbers quoted here, including:
"The Kingdom Hall Trust has grown its assets from £9.6m to £222m in three years after it took over 1,279 Jehovah’s Witnesses congregations... [and has] become the owner of 726 buildings in England and Wales..."
"The trust’s total expenditure in the year to 31 August 2022 was £25m..."
"...£4m was spent on 'providing places of worship'...”
"...£6m was spent on 'assisting congregations'..."
"...£14m was donated to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain."This link shows when the trust took over the halls (mostly in March 2022, but some up to two years earlier):
https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/275946/governanceIn Scotland (which has a separate legal system and therefore separate charity laws), it seems each congregation is still a charity by itself - the Scottish register has 96 listed.
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Regional Convention Attendance
by XBEHERE inelder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).
he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.
co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.
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Thanks for starting this thread, XBEHERE. It will be interesting to see the numbers come in from various places (both in and outside the USA) as the convention season goes on.
This would be a good thread to keep all those anecdotes about attendance together, so we can see how much it's fallen across the board (as I suspect it will).
Here in the UK, the English RCs run from June 23-August 27 with the first in Sheffield and the last in Liverpool and London.
Interesting, the argument from that CO about people "breaking up" their attendance over several weekends. I thought the org always 'encouraged' publishers to only go to their assigned convention? Even allowing for those who are working to attend a 'listening' convention, that wouldn't account for many, maybe a few hundred - besides which, that should show up as a slight increase elsewhere. I've never heard of that excuse, certainly not on mass. That definitely sounds like reaching.
Time will tell whether any locations do increase slightly, as the numbers come in. But I doubt it.