DA-great story. if my wife wasn't packing my chute all the time, i don't know what i would do. rileygurl-thanks for always watching my back, i love you.
that's probably to sappy for the board-sorry, i can't help it.
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"Who Packed Yours and Mine Parachute?"
by DevilsAdvocate_DA inwho packed yours and mine parachute?.
sometimes in the daily challenges that life gives us, we miss what is really important.
we may fail to say hello, please, or thank you, congratulate someone on something wonderful that has happened to them, give a compliment, or just something nice for no reason.. charles plumb, as us naval academy graduate, was a jet pilot in vietnam.
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Other worldy religions
by conflicted ini am going to look up some of the worlds non-christian religions, not as a seeker, or out of a need to change beliefs, but from an educational perspective.
i have been interested in what people belive for a while, but have never taken this step before.
i guess what i'm asking is if anyone else has looked up other religions and what have you found?
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i've read writings of some eastern religions(buddism, hinduism, taoism, etc.), as well as a lot of research on native american rituals and beliefs. i find common threads in all the religions i've looked at, and that's what keeps me studying. my findings are only little questions that make the answer much more complicated. it fascinates me, though, so i can't stop.
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"Use of the Internet-Be Alert to the Dange...
by zev init never ceases to amaze me that in my 30+ years of sitting in those cheep plastic chairs, how much i missed, took for granted or just plain didn't care.
i took advantage of my time this morning to look over a couple aticles published by the borg, that relate to sites like this and countless others.
{this one being the best of course, imho} .
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zev-great post. there was so much i wanted to comment on, but i'll just pick one little quote that really got me.
"The information is generally not verifiable and may be untrue."
i find this statement so funny because so many of the posts are direct quotes from the society's publications, which are easily verifiable. i do agree, however, that many of their statements are probably untrue(the quotes from the WT, i mean).
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So What Tipped You Out, Then?
by Englishman incan you remember that distinct moment in your life when you suddenly knew that your time as a jw was truly over?.
for me, that moment came several years after the removal of my privileges in the congregation when i admitted to having known my then fiance in a way that was not fitting for a ministerial servant.. i was quickly stripped of my 2 servants jobs, group study conducting, pioneer status, public talk giving and praying in the kh.
i was also forbidden to ever be alone with the lady concerned.. about 15 months later i was assigned a public talk, after 30 minutes i dried up.
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doubtingsister-i'm new too, glad to have you at the board. i just wanted to agree with waiting about the fence issue. IMO you shouldn't feel bad for taking some time(however long that is) to decide what you need to do. leaving the WT is a huge plunge to take, and most here understand that it's not necessary for us to pressure you one way or another. you don't have to pick sides here. looking forward to your posts-unanswered.
tergiversator and paulvarjak-welcome!
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So What Tipped You Out, Then?
by Englishman incan you remember that distinct moment in your life when you suddenly knew that your time as a jw was truly over?.
for me, that moment came several years after the removal of my privileges in the congregation when i admitted to having known my then fiance in a way that was not fitting for a ministerial servant.. i was quickly stripped of my 2 servants jobs, group study conducting, pioneer status, public talk giving and praying in the kh.
i was also forbidden to ever be alone with the lady concerned.. about 15 months later i was assigned a public talk, after 30 minutes i dried up.
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hi, englishman-i've thought about it, and as yet, i can't pinpoint the exact moment it happened. for me, it was a snowball that was already rolling down hill, it just kept getting larger and rolling faster all the time. that doesn't answer your question exactly, but the end result sounds the same-we're out and we're much happier for it.
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WT uses a Double Standard??????????
by JT infor an honest hearted person here is very little that upsets them like a double standard one rule for me and another for you.
for any current jw who may read this ask yourself , why would the society commend these folks for their actions and yet df you for doing the very same thing.
i have stated on many occasions that the writing dept often times writes excellent articles and this on in my opiion is no exception.
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and an elder once told me I didn't see the forest for the trees. hmmm...
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WT Article "Should you investigate.....?&q...
by unanswered ini noticed this in the october 15th, 2000 wt article entitled "should you investigate other religions?"..
"recognizing true christianity - after the apostles died, true worship became contaminated by the progressive development of many forms of imitation christianity.
forseeing this, jesus disclosed one way to distinguish these counterfeit forms of christianity from true chistianity.
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i noticed this in the october 15th, 2000 WT article entitled "Should you investigate other religions?".
"RECOGNIZING TRUE CHRISTIANITY - after the apostles died, true worship became contaminated by the progressive development of many forms of imitation christianity. forseeing this, jesus disclosed one way to distinguish these counterfeit forms of christianity from true chistianity. first, he warned: "be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheeps covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves." then he added: "by their fruits you will recognize them." (Matt 7:15 - 23) jesus true followers practiced what he taught, and they are easily recognized by their fine fruits. just as jesus himself did, they visit people to explain gods kingdom from the scriptures. following jesus example, they stand apart from the worlds politics and social controversies. they accept the bible as gods word and respect it as the truth. they make gods name known. and since they strive to practice the love that god teaches, they do not share in wars. instead, they treat one another as brothers. - Luke 4:33; 10:39; John 13:34,35; 17:16,17,26.according to the scriptures, it is possible to "see the distinction between a righteous one and a wicked one, between one serving god and one who has not served him." (Malachi 3:18) true worshipers today are united in thought and deed, just as the first century christians were. (Ephesians 4:4-6) once you identify such a body of genuine christians, why should you be inquisitive or curious about the beliefs of others?"
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"sincere people who are searching for the truth do well to consider carefully what they hear from different religions. in time, god will bless honest hearted individuals who seek the truth. the bible says of godly wisdom: "if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, in that case....you will find the very knowledge of god." (Proverbs 2:4,5) having found this knowlege of god through the bible and the christian congregation and having seen how jehovah blesses those who are guided by that knowledge, true christians do not continue listening to false religious teachings.- 2 Timothy 3:14""sincere people who are searching for truth do well to consider carefully what they hear from different religions."
"true christians do not continue listening to false religious teachings."
if so, then what is the first sentence all about? since they viewed "different" religions as "false", i guess this means JW's are allowed to look at other religions as long as they don't look at other religions. this reasoning is one of the many reasons that i am a happier man today then i was 5 years ago. i understand that they are saying that once you've found true religion you no longer need to question, but, as imperfect humans, a belief that important must be questioned and tested to see if we are missing anything. i don't think that shows lack of faith, i think it shows our need to prove our faith to ourselves. sorry if i soapboxed, i just read the article this morning and am still a little heated up. it's just my humble opinion.
also, i know none of you need convincing one way or the other, no matter what you believe. its just that i was never allowed to voice these opinions or questions while i was in the org., and its healing for me to be able to do so now. thanks for the opportunity.
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WT Controls: The mystery is finished
by philo inthe list below is a compilation of techniques the wtbts uses to control the rank and file.
you may find your own contribution has become part of another entry.
perhaps you disagree with how i have categorized the techniques, if so please tell me.
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man, when they are all stacked up like that, it's easy to see why some(many?) of us had such a hard time getting out. and they call apostates manipulative.
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Cads!!
by expatbrit init would appear that certain dastardly husbands have been making witticisms at the expense of their dear wives.. don't look innocent, we all know who you are....... expatbrit.. husband quotes:.
i just didn't know her first name was always.. i haven't spoken to my wife for 18 months.
i don't like to interrupt her.. marriage is a 3-ring circus: engagement ring, wedding ring, and.
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somebody-i was just being my sarcastic self, maybe you already realized that, but i wanted to make it clear. i actually laughed the hardest when i read your jokes.
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Cads!!
by expatbrit init would appear that certain dastardly husbands have been making witticisms at the expense of their dear wives.. don't look innocent, we all know who you are....... expatbrit.. husband quotes:.
i just didn't know her first name was always.. i haven't spoken to my wife for 18 months.
i don't like to interrupt her.. marriage is a 3-ring circus: engagement ring, wedding ring, and.
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oops. i promise i didn't do that to get the junior status.
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