Posts by Gojira

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Were You Ever Interrogated By The Elders?

by minimus in

jw
friends

some elders enjoy giving the business to the lowly flock thru intimidation.

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some love to ask you to enter with them into the "backroom".. of course, there were many that never had run-ins with the shepherds because they were under the radar.. did you ever get interrogatted by the elders and if so, how did it go??

Gojira_101

I've never been interrogated for anything I did personally, but when I was regular pioneering (I was about 17, 18 at the time) on one of the days the only service group was about 30 minutes north of the KH, and being a regular pioneer you needed service time. Anyway it was one of those type of deals where in the morning was service and then at 12 was book study (the one for the poor elderly brothers and sisters who can't drive at night), then service after book study.

One day after book study the two elders who are there ask to speak with me and (thank god it was just in the living room and not the bedroom, who knows what would have happened to me) started asking about sister Jones. Now sister Jones was a few years older than me and she was part of the "in" crowd of the other young people in the hall. That group of kids never allowed into their group.

On this day both elders start questioning me about sister Jones. Do you hang out with her? Do you know who does? Have you "heard" anything about sister Jones?...etc...etc. I thought it was really weird and I honestly had no info for the elders because she never talked to me.

Fast forward to a couple months and sister Jones and some of the other kids are df'ed, and some of their parents have become apostate.

Looking back NOW, it all makes perfect sense.

Gojira

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I'M SERIOUS!!!! If you eat cupcakes you will die at the Big "A"

by Gojira_101 in

i was just doing dishes not really thinking about anything in particular, and all of a sudden this experience came flooding back and i started crying.. a few years ago i went back to one of the states i lived in to see/visit my friends (before i learned ttatt, i was still a happy borg at this time).. the friends i were staying with had two young girls, one was 3rd grade and the other was preschool.

so one day the father comes home after picking up the older girl (i think she was 7, 8...i'm not sure exactly this was several years ago) and she was all red and looked like she had been crying.

i noticed she had some blue at the corner of her mouth.

Gojira_101

OMG Heaven!!!!! Those are awesome!!!!!! Thank you for sharing that picture

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NEW video on Youtube MUST SEE! the elder's meeting is ridiculous!

by Newly Enlightened in

brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.

both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.

thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.

Gojira_101

Dad has always been a pitbull with the elders, he is such a trouble maker.

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Proof of a Spirit World? The Scole experiments

by universaltruth in

i just had to share something i found fascinating and faith building.

i know it's not specifically related to the topic of this forum but i think it would be useful to anyone lacking faith in a spirit world and a god such as those who have been stumbled by false religion.. i do not personally believe that the existence of complex life provides evidence of a creator as evolutionists have done a very good job at explaining how life has evolved into the complex forms that exist today.. so instead ive looked to the supernatural to provide me with evidence of a spirit world.

if i can prove to myself that a spirit world exists, this would provide sufficient evidence for the existence of a god, since it is reasonable to assume that one cannot exist without the other.. without dabbling in the occult myself i have carried out research into the paranormal and i am always keen to watch documentarys that provide convincing evidence and credible eye witness testimony.. one such documentary which was aired on tv can now be watched on youtube.

Gojira_101

Marked to read later.

Thanks!!

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I have said it before

by mouthy in

jw
friends

this time i mean it.. thanks for all the ones that love me .

i am getting off the site after all these years.. anghard & simon .

but of late.

Gojira_101

I wish you the best granny! I will miss you, but I understand why you want to leave. I wish you the best.

Much love!!!

Gojira

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HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

Gojira_101

Blacksheep:

Brother of the Hawk is NOT being offensive. My father (Brother of the Hawk) knows more about deaf culture than you clearly do.

Do you know deaf people? Do you know ASL? Have you even studied about deaf culture???? If you have and you know everything about deaf people then please try to explain to me, someone who has been a sign language interpreter for 10 years, who works with deaf people everyday, who has to live in two different cultures in order to facilitate communication for two different cultures so there is no misunderstanding....Please explain to me how he is being offensive since clearly you know more than I do.

Let me try to educate you on deaf culture. With deaf people they don't understand "beating around the bushes" type of communication. With deaf people everything is blunt and in your face, because it is a visual language. Everything has to be clear the first time you say. For example.

If you are wearing an ugly shirt, a deaf person will tell you it is ugly to your face and tell you it should be thrown away.

I have had deaf people tell me personally, you are too fat, you are gaining to much weight, you don't look good in that shirt. All of these people are people I hardly know. There was one other interpreter I was working with when we were interpreting for this deaf person and the deaf person asked if the other interpreter was pregnant, and the interpreter say no, the deaf person then proceeded to say to the other interpreter, oh you need to lose some weight then, you look like you are pregnant.

So please since you are the expert here Blacksheep on deaf culture and clearly know more about it then I do. Please educate me because clearly I don't know ANYTHING about deaf people and their culture.....

[edited to add] And the deaf culture I'm referring to is American Deaf Culture.

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HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

Gojira_101

ADCMS: Thank you for listing those policy changes following the time line. I'm going to copy and print those up for my friend and show her.

We are supposed to be meeting again next week to talk more.

I also think that "bible based" understanding about homosexuality and bestiality not being grounds for divorce will be a good to show her. I'm sure she will be shocked! Since that is from a WT from before she started studying. Again using WT own lit against them to show people the flip flopping doctrine.

Gojira.

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HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

Gojira_101

@Abiblestudent: That is a tough one to answer. Spiritually strong or spiritually weak? When we were "in" we were the ones who would have been considered spiritually strong, not to brag but my family was one of the back bones of the congregation.

But looking back now, I guess we never were the good little JW's who did everything WT said to do. When it came to df'ed ones, we still treated them like Christ said to by showing love because maybe you could get your brother/sister back. It's hard to explain, yes we were spiritually strong, but weak at the same time. Around 2001 my mom became sick and even then when we started missing meetings the so-called "friends" of ours called us apostates, even though we were not at the time. All we kept saying is where is this so-called love Christ said would be the identifying mark of his followers?

After mom got sick, every single WT that came out with the experiences of that poor old sister who is home bound and how the friends helped her through it, and how loving they are to her...made me sick. I would get so pissed that would hang up the phone tie-in to the meetings. That love, care and concern was never there for my family, like it was for that poor old sister. I think for me personally, I didn't want to be one of those people who didn't care for a sick person or someone who was "down". In my mind it didn't matter if they were df'ed, inactive or still JW or a non-JW. People are still people with feelings and emotions.

I guess after that is when I started to really "SEE" what wt was like, but like someone else said, you don't know where else to go. So you just stay in with WT because you don't know where else to go because WT did such a good job at disproving all other religions are false, it leaves you staying with WT because you truly don't know where to go. I guess there is still habe hope that God really is with WT, but then the second the 4 of us realized God is not with WT, it was really easy for me to walk away.

One interesting thing about myself. While I was a JW, I had terrible anger issues. I would get so angry so quick because of how the JW's acted...the least little thing and I would go off on a rant for hours. Since I've left, I still get angry, but not like before. My husband and even my parents say how my attitude has improved for the better. It's very hard for me to admit this, but I was to the point where I HATED people, JW's and non-JW's alike. Now there is no hate in my heart anymore, and I actually feel sorry for all of these people who are stuck in these religions who are teaching hate.

Sorry I kind of went off topic and I'm not sure if I answered your other question.

Gojira

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HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

Gojira_101

@ Biblestudent: Out of curiosity why do you feel your parents were successful in showing TTATT to you and your husband?

My husband and I left WT didn't we? I'd say that is successful. I'm not sure if this is what you mean.

Is there any similarities between you showing your friend TTATT and your parents showing you and your husband TTATT?

I remember for myself when my parents started telling me TTATT I felt like I was going to be sick, my stomach was very upset, and I hardly ate anything at lunch. My husband since I could see his face, his look was the exact same look as my friends face. It's hard to explain, but you can clearly see the emotion on a person's face. I'm very good at reading body language because I am an ASL interpreter, I have to know what people are saying with their body language.

The look my friend had and the look my husband had was shock, disbelief, disgust, anger, sadness, tears....all at the same time. It's very hard to explain what it looks like. I even saw this same look on my parents face many times while we were realizing all the lies of WT. Then something else that was similar is the asking question. I can't remember specifically what my questions were to my parents when they were telling us TTATT, but my friend started asking me questions based on the basic teachings of JW's

Does that answer your questions? If not I will try again :)

Gojira

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YHWH v YHVH - yes, V not W

by *lost* in

god's real name and identity yhvh.

yhwh - fraudulent identity.. .

can we all sue wt for evidenced fraud and deliberate deception ??

Gojira_101

Wow *lost* you sure did the research. I can see why you were up so late!

My parents and I left the same way when we found out Jehovah is not God's name. It's very upsetting, that was what finally cut the last cord to WT. If they don't even know what God's name is how can they be God's chosen people? In my opinion, they are not!.

I'll have to come back to this later and read it all. I have to get to work! Thank you for sharing all this research with us!!!

Gojira

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