Hey Gopher,
Care to join me in a black mass? here, you refuse some of the blood of christ while i refuse to eat his body ;)
in a recent post metatron and judith mentioned in passing that dubs they knew had been involved in satanic rituals.
forgive my morbid curiousity, but exactly what sorts of rituals were these?.
bear in mind that as dubs we were told that the rituals of the roman catholic church were satanic, that smurfs were satanic, that rock'n'roll was satanic, etc., etc.
Hey Gopher,
Care to join me in a black mass? here, you refuse some of the blood of christ while i refuse to eat his body ;)
i barely remember a bible account that went something along these lines: some representative of god was trying to show the israelites that jehovah was the real god and challenged them to build a big sacrifice and have their god answer and consume it with fire.
when they couldn't, he began to mock them and as the story goes he prays to god and half the mountain dissappears or something like that.. sorry i couldn't be more precise but it has been a long time.
if you remember the bible chapter and verses, i would like to read it again.. skipper.
I think the site you guys are talking about is not MtCarmel (where Elija hid from jezebel etc ) but Mt Sinai (where Moses boss Jethro, the most High of Midian, ran his forge and idol making business)
I have a book somewhere with aerial photos etc .. i think its called 'Gold of Genesis'
i'm flying into seattle for a week-long visit with my son in bellingham.
my older son, a staunchly loyal jw, is coming with me for our semi-annual father-and-sons reunion.. i'd love to be able to meet any of you who live in the general area, although i don't know for certain that it could be arranged.
my jw son does not shun me or his brother, even though i'm disassociated and the brother disfellowshipped.
Seattle? Hey Cap'n, that's not in Western Australia. Seems to me like you got a choice between visiting YouKnow or Wasasister mmmm i wonder what you should do?
regards unc.
"we will all be standing and watching as they throw their worthless money into the streets.".
rekless
Surely, anything that is worthless should be thrown into the dustbin? Only yobbo's chuck rubbish on the pavement.
English,
This is a bible quote and most ancient people were yobbos. It was cool to be a yobbo in those days .. name me a patriach who didn't chuck wineskins over his shoulder or feel up every girl he passed. I was in a bookshop today and just happened to be peroozing the section on erotica and saw the sex bible .. a book detailing every sorded sex story in the old testament .. um Hebrew Scriptures ... what tales of lust and depravity, men raping thier fathers prostitutes and women .. well they didn't do much but lay back and think of England by all accounts.
unclebruce
PS: Reckless aren't you referencing the Babylon the Great or Finished Mystery book? (i'm sitting here in a bible free, watchtower publication free zone)
i barely remember a bible account that went something along these lines: some representative of god was trying to show the israelites that jehovah was the real god and challenged them to build a big sacrifice and have their god answer and consume it with fire.
when they couldn't, he began to mock them and as the story goes he prays to god and half the mountain dissappears or something like that.. sorry i couldn't be more precise but it has been a long time.
if you remember the bible chapter and verses, i would like to read it again.. skipper.
g'day Mindchild,
a careful reading of the account some time back had me wondering about the buckets of 'water' Elijah had thrown on the sacraficial pyre .. i mean that was one almighty explosion and petroleum products oozed out of the ground in parts of ancient mesopotania.
thinking out loud, unclebruce
i'm talking the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about their organization---up front, not subtly creeping it in.
two of them caught me by surprise this morning at my door (nobody here knows me from adam) offering the awake magazine on battered women.
i was incredulous, having had experience with being a battered woman and a witness all at the same time.
beautifully said Bridgette (it's 5am here .. if i'd read this later in the day i'd probably be laughing my ears off at your unique wording)
How can we make a witness tell the truth? I dunno, hold Bathory's head under the tap till he admits the truths bullshit? (yeah you Bathory .. you're way too smart to believe we're in the last daze ;)
unclebruce who served jehovah rudely.
i realise some still retain a bit of a superstitious fear in certain areas where watchtower dogma has been drummed into you such as birthdays and christmas.
how do you feel about voting today?
especially in light of the fact that here in oz voting is compulsory and that doing so would demonstrate "subjection to the superior authorities" (rom.
Ditto - Marilyn
Funny thing is that while i was a JW I took a keen interest in politics but now, big kim and liitle johhny look like the corporate giants tarred with the same brush (and polies have become smoother than ever at brushing us little folk off) Even the satirical genius of Roy Slaven and HG Nelson running channel sevens coverage couldn't get me interested. Was that Peter Reith and Graham Richardson droning overhead or the sound of my flight of fancy getting relaxed and comfortable in John Howard's DC3?
unclebruce, a green under the bed.
"..........................." Harpo Marx
the story of cain and abel is as old as the hills and well known to most on this board.
as jehovah's witnesses we swallowed the narrow adventist line and the regular brain numbing sessions never allowed free headspace to think critically about what this bible story is really saying.
recently i got into a discussion with a neighbour about the curse of cain (neville said he always asked bible toting door knockers where cain got his wife from .. easy .. the land of noddy ;).
Edward .. many years ago I reduced the conflict between Jehovah and Baal to little more than that in my mind. Jehovah = meat eating father God + Baal = Female vegetarian mothergodess
question to throw out to anyone who cares to answer.. what do jw's believe happens when they die.
jon always told me that when life was over, that was it, no heaven no hell just nothingness.. is that what jw's really believe?
he didn't like to talk about it with me because he thought it would upset me.. thanks for any input,.
G'day Kevin,
To keep Jehovah's Witnesses constantly on thier toes Jehovah promises that when they die he might commit thier names to memory. He also has a big book of life and if you're good he pencils you in to be resurected perfectly naked on a paradise earth. After a few hundred years you will get a chance to tell Satan where to stick his fruit and Jehiovah might then pen you into the book of life perminantly .. unless you get a big head like satan one day and that will mean instant death .. only jesus and the 144,000 gain incoruptabliility
curiously little mention is ever made of the asignment of the 144,000 after thier job is complete 1,000 years after armagedon and all jehovahs witnesses can talk to jehovah directly on thier mobile phones.
the story of cain and abel is as old as the hills and well known to most on this board.
as jehovah's witnesses we swallowed the narrow adventist line and the regular brain numbing sessions never allowed free headspace to think critically about what this bible story is really saying.
recently i got into a discussion with a neighbour about the curse of cain (neville said he always asked bible toting door knockers where cain got his wife from .. easy .. the land of noddy ;).
moxy my strange responce to you means i agree with all you said and appreciate the imput.
wow danny you aren't starting to feel sympathy for that murdering friend of Satan, Cain are ya? Actually you bring to mind similarities in this story and Jesus parable of the two sons. As a rightious JW lad, I always empathised with and related top the pain of the good son and couldn't help but wonder if, after my going 'out into the world' for a while, i'd be as well recieved as the bad son. ..
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