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  Why didn't Jesus Give Instructions for a Bible?

  by gumby in

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  matt: 24:14 .."and this good new of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth as a witnesss to all the nations - and then the end will come".. jesus plan was that by the time he was to return, the earth would be schooled as to who and what he was.

  suppose you were going to leave the planet for 2000 years and you wanted the entire earthly society of people who would be alive when you returned to know about you.

  would you tell someone to write down all your words of truth since these words would produce salvation and eternal life to all who believed in you........or would you tell a handful of diciples or say even 500 buddies to spread your words to their children and down through the succeding generations?.

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  no offense, but i have as much respect for history books and historians as some people on jwd have for the watchtowers and awakes.

  Hey just, I hope It's just a phase your going through lol .. I can understand your fear of science but in the non cult world one doesn't need to believe everything one reads. To liken historians or any other scientists to the scribes that write watchtower and awake! is woeful in its ignorance. I don't even know where to start with that lol.There are threads here where people relate their JW experience. Do we have to believe these stories? No way! But personnaly I find that arround 100% of these history records ring true. And this is without anything remotely like the standard of proof and peer review required before one can successfuly publish history research (geez if you think JWD is a tough audience, try getting anything past the argumentative hawks of academia). They'd tear you to shreds over a misplaced commer (why does that ring a bell?).

  Historians aren't dogmatic purveyors of bullshit any more than any other scientists. Some of my best friends are historians. They work hard and reveal much. A friend and neighbour of mine, Mark McKenna, has just published a book called 'looking for blackfellows point' in which he examines and documents the harsh treatment and massacre of Australias indigenous folk in the very early days of settlement here in the Bega Valley. His work in revealing things till now whispered about behind closed doors hasn't made him very popular with the locals but has won him many national awards from those who appreciate well researched work shining light into dark corners and asking questions about our past and present attitudes and behaviour.

  We all have our own a basic frame work of facts to hang our ideas and we all vary in this. True histrory is fascinating and fun to explore. For me the earth is an old spherical rock spinning around a dying little star (I can only take the historians word on this - it's a pretty crazy idea but I'll buy it till the flat earth society gets their act together). For me t here is more fun and truth to be found in examination of the questions than will ever be found in the answers, a view shared by most historians amature and otherwise.

  cheers unc who looks for questions.

  ps: sorry for the ramble, hope it makes sense I'm not awake yet
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  Why didn't Jesus Give Instructions for a Bible?

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  matt: 24:14 .."and this good new of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth as a witnesss to all the nations - and then the end will come".. jesus plan was that by the time he was to return, the earth would be schooled as to who and what he was.

  suppose you were going to leave the planet for 2000 years and you wanted the entire earthly society of people who would be alive when you returned to know about you.

  would you tell someone to write down all your words of truth since these words would produce salvation and eternal life to all who believed in you........or would you tell a handful of diciples or say even 500 buddies to spread your words to their children and down through the succeding generations?.

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  do i have this straight? jesus said 6 words that we are all familiar with and mao tao cow wrote 50 poems that very few people have ever heard of ,that are so full of wisdom that it has to be hidden away and revealed to very few people after 1400 years.

  No you're bent as a fundy preacher. My point has gone way over your head. There are 450 million taoists who would laugh at your "depth" just.. not to mention hundreds of millions of Hindus and Budhists and numerous others. In any case.. since when was truth a popularity contest? (a very western/watchtower concept)

  Those six words you refer to were said by Lao Tsu, Buddha, Celts, Druids, Vikings, Polynesians, Australian Aborigines, American Indians, Inuit, Mung Tribespeople, Animistic Melanesians, Zulus and many others long before Paul's created his cult of christ. I say those words too. Loving your neighbour is not rocket science (as a yank might say) It's just common sense. With no knowledge of the Jews or their religion people have been recommending that since we dropped from the trees.

  No offense but you'd do well to study a good history book or two cobber.
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  Why didn't Jesus Give Instructions for a Bible?

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  matt: 24:14 .."and this good new of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth as a witnesss to all the nations - and then the end will come".. jesus plan was that by the time he was to return, the earth would be schooled as to who and what he was.

  suppose you were going to leave the planet for 2000 years and you wanted the entire earthly society of people who would be alive when you returned to know about you.

  would you tell someone to write down all your words of truth since these words would produce salvation and eternal life to all who believed in you........or would you tell a handful of diciples or say even 500 buddies to spread your words to their children and down through the succeding generations?.

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  They seek him here, they seek him there... they juggle their balls high in the air..

  
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  What is the naughtiest thing you ever did during a dist./circuit assembly?

  by lovernotafighter in

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  i,ve done a few, but one of the best was going to see strippers with two other young brothers.. anyone else do anything fun or taboo?

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  Stop crying Gumby it's unbecomming™

  You did something naughty I know you did ...hint: thoughts can be naughty too
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  And Now for Something Spiritual

  by unclebruce in

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  as you know, i discovered jesus late one night while surfing jehovah on the net.

  i ordered my plastic jesus, he duly arrived heralded by a mighty trumpet blast and he and i have inseperatable ever since.

  it's not easy being the only true christian in the world.

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  does JanH know theyre using his face on ashtrays?

  I think him and open-fire-glass have shares 'Lord of the Kings' Jigsaw:
  
  Junior: "Oh, wow! Lord of the Rings! Thanks, mum and dad!"
  
  Parent: "No, son. It's Lord of the Kings. That'll teach you for not going to Sunday School every Sunday this year."
  
  "See the big picture this Christmas," it says on the box. Geddit?
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  Hi every one!

  by wifey in

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  i may not post much cause i'm really busy with work and raising 3 grandkids but some times see posts i would like to comment on.

  glad to meet all of you.. later, .

  wifey

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  Welcome to JWD wifey

  Happy Posting
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  What is the naughtiest thing you ever did during a dist./circuit assembly?

  by lovernotafighter in

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  i,ve done a few, but one of the best was going to see strippers with two other young brothers.. anyone else do anything fun or taboo?

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  I stole $60.00 out of the contrabution box once.I was about 12 years old at the time.

  LOL - $60 buys a lot of assembly food - you could have feed a multitude with that!
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  The Exclusive Brethren: JW's on steroids in Oz

  by HalfWayThere in

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  heard a story on the radio (triplej) about a religion in australia called the exclusive brethren.

  when the story was being introduced i thought they were talking about jw's, but then it all sounded much worse:.

  link: http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hack/notes/s1594232.htm.

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  I worked with and for Plymouth Brethren in Sydney (of the Eclusive Brethren split) They were afraid of my mobile phone, and never had TV's, radios or computers - Satan being the Lord of the Air' Last week I listened to an ABC interview with Greens Senator Bob Bown (arguably Australia's most respected and influential politicion).Bob said that we should deal with the Plymouth Brethren's interfearence in our secular system the same way we dealt with the Jehovah's Witnesses over the issue of blood transfusion. Legislate changes that mitigate the lunacy, "Jehovah's Witnesses can no longer refuse their children blood transfusions, we simply take them away from their parents and give it too them".
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  The Exclusive Brethren: JW's on steroids in Oz

  by HalfWayThere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heard a story on the radio (triplej) about a religion in australia called the exclusive brethren.

  when the story was being introduced i thought they were talking about jw's, but then it all sounded much worse:.

  link: http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hack/notes/s1594232.htm.

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  unclebruce

  I worked both with and for Plymouth Brethren in
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  And Now for Something Spiritual

  by unclebruce in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as you know, i discovered jesus late one night while surfing jehovah on the net.

  i ordered my plastic jesus, he duly arrived heralded by a mighty trumpet blast and he and i have inseperatable ever since.

  it's not easy being the only true christian in the world.

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  unclebruce

  Yes things certainly move ahead Satanus .. I like the idea of floating up to heaven in a hotair Cathederal .. 1,2,3,4,...2004,2005,2006 ..here we come Jesus ready or not!