Alice in chains...Dirt
Radiohead....OK Computer
Oldies, but, still amazing
Alice in chains...Dirt
Radiohead....OK Computer
Oldies, but, still amazing
earlier this morning, i posted off to the the institute of engineers an application for membership as an "engineering associate":.
- today being just over 40 years since the congregation's retards elders made me abandon my apprenticeship.. (in this part of the world, the pre-1975 hype was taken to that level.
not being content to prevent young persons attending university, they went one step further and treated with hostility any youngster who would "tie up five years of their lives" by entering into an apprenticeship.
Bunji, best of luck to you,
I got my degree at 40! So hard combining it with kids, of course I also was not allowed to study straight from school, what a waste!
earlier this morning, i posted off to the the institute of engineers an application for membership as an "engineering associate":.
- today being just over 40 years since the congregation's retards elders made me abandon my apprenticeship.. (in this part of the world, the pre-1975 hype was taken to that level.
not being content to prevent young persons attending university, they went one step further and treated with hostility any youngster who would "tie up five years of their lives" by entering into an apprenticeship.
Bunji, best of luck to you,
I got my degree at 40! So hard combining it with kids, of course I also was not allowed to study straight from school, what a waste!
thursday, february 28. jehovah will make known who belongs to him.-num.
16:5. korah lost sight of the fact that jehovah was directing the nation of israel and consequently failed to show loyalty to those whom god was using.
how much wiser it would have been for korah to wait on jehovah for a clearer understanding or for adjustments if those were really needed.
So, put up & shut up elders, and anyone else....suck up any personal feelings & get on with it.
If you are disappointed.....cause what we've told you was going to happen hasn't...that's your failing.
Another encouraging message from the WTBTS!
ill bet a million JWs are reading this at the breakfast table, and taking their anti depressants at the same time...and not making a connection.
i have been reading ashley judd's 'all things bitter and sweet' autobiography, and it has exhausted me.
she paints a picture of neglect and abuse from early childhood on.
as i sat reading, i realised i was identifying with so much of what she wrote.. why, when having an emotional breakdown as a teenager, major obsessive compulsive disorder, obvious depression symptoms, would you refuse to get medical help for your child?
PTN, and everyone on this thread, I feel so bad for you all. I had similar experiences in my childhood.
I think being ignored in this way is the worst kind of damage. I've met lots of people (non JW) who laugh about their poor or brutal childhoods, but when you question them more deeply....no matter how bad the family there always seems to be memories of happiness/joy/excitement & love, the Xmas,birthdays, fun times.
You see documentaries in some of the poorest parts of the world, and you see love between parents and children.
I've noticed a lot of JW just don't have this.
my childhood has resulted in me being so repressed emotionally, sometimes I've wondered if I'm autistic, but, no, I think it is just a defense that was a natural response to how I was being raised
now I am a parent, I see that they were wrong, not me.
can I recommend reading on child development? I found that really helpful, learning what is normal for children has helped stop me from judging myself to harshly over what happened in the past. Being a parent has made me realize that I can feel love.
Im sorry your childhood was this bad PTN,
does anyone else remember all the discipline of children at the meetings?
i was just thinking how i never see anyone physically punish their children anymore.
growing up attending meetings there was a constant stream of children being taken out & hit, as well as all the whispered threats, arm squeezing, pinching etc.
So it seems that this culture has died out then....that's good.
interesting troubled mind & cofty it's because of legal changes in the world & fear of what the neighbors will think, no change for the better driven by elders or the WTS!
Girl next door......good for you, I wish I'd seen you stand up to that elder!
Cptkirk you say it sounds kinky, it was. I thought it was so wrong, one of those things where you feel sick afterwards, but, everyone seemed to think that this mother was completely within her rights to do this. No one would have dreamed of saying anything.
Thats my 10 posts gone....catch ya later
does anyone else remember all the discipline of children at the meetings?
i was just thinking how i never see anyone physically punish their children anymore.
growing up attending meetings there was a constant stream of children being taken out & hit, as well as all the whispered threats, arm squeezing, pinching etc.
Does anyone else remember all the discipline of children at the meetings? I was just thinking how I never see anyone physically punish their children anymore. Growing up attending meetings there was a constant stream of children being taken out & hit, as well as all the whispered threats, arm squeezing, pinching etc
Some dads even took their kids out, and then you knew they were in for it!
What was horrible was the approval amongst a lot of the elders & older ones in the hall, you could sometimes see them nodding their heads in agreement as the poor kid was dragged out. In a strange way parents got a lot of social approval for harshly disciplining their children. In the meetings discipline was equated with love. There was never anything about the dangers of giving angry, repressed people free reign to lay into their kids.
I once saw a sister slap her daughter really hard in a meeting, this girl was 18, and so mortified.
My Mum bought wooden spoons in bulk because she got sick of breaking them on us ( I know that sounds funny, but it's true !)
The thing is, in my generation we were all hit, a lot. None of us would say anything about it, it was sanctioned in the hall, if some of these children were then sexually abused, well......where could they go? What could they say?
I really hope someone is going to post that times have changed & this is not seen as OK anymore?
i was just mailed this today -- thought it was funny.
(please forgive me if this is a dupe - i tried to search for similar jokes on this site).. .
oops too much tv time watching those commercials!.
I remember a 2/3 year old calling out "help me Jehovah!" As he was being dragged out by 1 arm for some loving discipline during a meeting......
how everyone chuckled smugly (heartwarming !). poor kid still got whacked though
back in 1973, when i was just a pre-teen, i remember that meetings in general were chock full of persecution talks, great tribulation talks and armageddon talks.
so much so, that there was a hightened sense of anticipation that the end was really just a few years away.
most j-dubs really believed, without any doubt, that freddy's estimation about armageddon in 1975 was a certainty (give or take a few months... not years).
Desirous of change, I haven't been to meetings in a long time, but if that's what they are like, then they have become just like Christendom. When I went it was all urgent! Urgent!
In a strange way what you are describing sounds a lot more relaxed & social, so maybe more people will just stay in in a half assed way....in this diluted JW?
i know I could not stand the stress of constantly being exorted to do more, more, more before the end, never feeling good enough, never being ready for Armageddon, the fear that I would be found lacking.
addressing the false claim that jehovah's witnesses do not think "independently.. .
http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/02/addressing-false-claim-that-jehovahs.html#.
from a wt apologist.. .
Hahahah.....so you must independently look for the truth...oh here's something called "The Truth" so stop looking & thinking now....
This is so bad, I almost feel that it is a joke...but sadly it probably isn't.