Posts by alecholmesthedetective

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty in
1. jw
2. experiences
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
alecholmesthedetective

This thread is definitely not worthless and it would be disingenuous to suggest that.

If a point is invalid, it will be exposed as such. If it is valid it's only beneficial to have it reaffirmed. That's why debates like this are important.

What kept us in a cult was a suppression of critical thinking. Threads like this show how important it is that we not only know what we believe but why we believe it.

Believing in things without evidence or pretending to know things we don't know is an unreliable method to base our knowledge and by extension our lives on. So many better choices can be made, and so much more quality can be brought into our lives too, by an evidence-based worldview and reason.

This is the best way to advance our species and our world.
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i wish more churches would preach truth like this
by unstopableravens in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncehcvrvgq.
alecholmesthedetective

Also, in Mark 11:24 , Jesus tells his disciples: "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer , believe that you have received it, and it will be yours."

Sure yeah
2596
The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty in
1. jw
2. experiences
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
alecholmesthedetective

" Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

Epicurus
2596
The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty in
1. jw
2. experiences
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
alecholmesthedetective

since Christ's resurrection, he decided to refrain from being the type of interventionist God he had been before - EdenOne

So how do you account for all the deaths from earthquakes and tsunamis prior to 33AD? - cofty

I hope you never thank god for your food or ask for healing or anything else. That would be hypocritical - cofty

Especially since 33 AD, in Eden's worldview.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty in
1. jw
2. experiences
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
alecholmesthedetective

Issues for explaining the existence of god/s:

The problem of evil.

The problem of myths, like the bible.

The exponential growth of knowledge about the natural world/the universe, confining god/s to gaps.

The fact that we don't need them for morality and meaning.
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A Clean Slate When You Die ??
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
for the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

- romans 6:7 (nwt).

i got a chance to witness to my dad scripture for scripture for one whole hour over the holidays.
alecholmesthedetective
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Asked my christian co-workers.....
by DS211 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
alecholmesthedetective

My hypothesis on why there is so much atheism among ex-JWs is that for many of us it took considerable courage and critical-thinking skills to see the error in our beliefs. Many, but not all, have the fortitude to apply the same skills to belief in god and inspired boks.

Same.

Critical thinking was applied to the beliefs of others but not our own.
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the bible said adam AND eve so i slept with them both...
by alecholmesthedetective in
1. social
2. humour
... well its the bible, not the straightble, im just following the book.. .

(source: the internetz).
alecholmesthedetective

Alec- At the same time? Maybe that's what's meant as a three- fold cord?

omg

that and the "intimate relationship with Jesus" thing
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the bible said adam AND eve so i slept with them both...
by alecholmesthedetective in
1. social
2. humour
... well its the bible, not the straightble, im just following the book.. .

(source: the internetz).
alecholmesthedetective

... Well it’s the Bible, not the Straightble, I’m just following the book.

(source: the internetz)
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Another new member here to share her experience
by One Last Kiss in
1. jw
2. experiences
im a long-time lurker turned member, finally felt the need to share my experience with people who know where im coming from.

will try to be as succinct as possible!.

am from the uk and was born in as 3rd generation.
alecholmesthedetective

Whoa OLK, welcome!

So now I’ve sort of come to terms with things but am unable to vent to anyone

Please vent away, you'll feel better putting it our of your system.

Do work on getting new friends. I survived the last year or so without contact from my old KH friends who haven't called me, maybe emailed me twice to say 'come to the meetings, we miss you', and without my family, all of whom are in.

It has been my girlfriend (non JW) who gave me the personal support I needed. And I've done a lot of venting online. My gf and I are both instropective people who don't have loads of friends, but we have a few close ones. As the year ends it dawned on me how I don't need my family's/friend's conditional love to survive.

So, by all means, make connections, go out, have fun, enjoy yourself.

Take it easy on searching for all the answers, it's overwhelming, it takes time. You've got the rest of your life. But I say this: don't let guilt and fear paralyse you--these are the WT's weapons over the rank and file. Trust us, it's OK, your life is yours now, go and live it in peace.

We're here for you!