i can recall sometime ago in the 60`s 70`s or theirabouts,it when they first printed their own songbook must have been before the org.copyrighted their material,and the reason they did that is because some brothers were stealing the tunes ?
maybe modifying them and passing them off as their own for commercial gain?
( i know some of you are going to say wtf ?
I remember as a kid attending meetings in an old arts hall (as i'm sure many do) when some older bro/sis would play the piano.
There was one old brother who always played the last song at break-neck speed in order to get to the pub before closing time.
my family often spoke well of milton henschel.
i left when knorr was still president.
looking at the flimiest of personal infos for gb members, i noticed that henschel became president and then was demoted and don adams became president.
I remember beign at a small covention with MH, he seemed quite nice then, compared to Knorr.
I heard that he was in one of the African countries when some sort of 'persecution' broke out and suffered some physical abuse. I don't remember the details but a lot was made of it at the time.
this is a sugestion i have to all members of this board ,members from all over the world, to let the victorian government in australia know that the world is concerned about protecting the children of victoria ,and theirby setting a precedent for the rest of the world, who are interested in the outcome of the criminal charges against the religion of jehovah`s witnesses in refusing to abide by the legislation to get "working with children checks"when required to do so.correct me if i`m wrong but i think if all of us sent letters to the newspapers here in australia ,the different members of parliment here,we would demonstate that the victorian judicial system here is under scrutiny to do the right thing in the eyes of the world.. we all complain that the wtb&ts/jehovahs witnesses is a cult religion that sucks,destroying family relationships,here is a chance to do something about it.
whether you agree with steven unthank or not,here is an opportunity to stick up for the children of jehovah`s witnesses and every other child that a witness calls on in their door to door ministry.. what do you think ?.
smiddy.
I don't know the program but I guess that would be her.
Perhaps you could leave a message at the station for her or she may have contact details.
No doubt her parents are well aware of this issue (she stopped associating at a young age).
Her father was a school teacher, so this association may have some impact on her thinking.
this is a sugestion i have to all members of this board ,members from all over the world, to let the victorian government in australia know that the world is concerned about protecting the children of victoria ,and theirby setting a precedent for the rest of the world, who are interested in the outcome of the criminal charges against the religion of jehovah`s witnesses in refusing to abide by the legislation to get "working with children checks"when required to do so.correct me if i`m wrong but i think if all of us sent letters to the newspapers here in australia ,the different members of parliment here,we would demonstate that the victorian judicial system here is under scrutiny to do the right thing in the eyes of the world.. we all complain that the wtb&ts/jehovahs witnesses is a cult religion that sucks,destroying family relationships,here is a chance to do something about it.
whether you agree with steven unthank or not,here is an opportunity to stick up for the children of jehovah`s witnesses and every other child that a witness calls on in their door to door ministry.. what do you think ?.
smiddy.
BTW her name is Kate - my guess is she may weigh in on the issue.
this is a sugestion i have to all members of this board ,members from all over the world, to let the victorian government in australia know that the world is concerned about protecting the children of victoria ,and theirby setting a precedent for the rest of the world, who are interested in the outcome of the criminal charges against the religion of jehovah`s witnesses in refusing to abide by the legislation to get "working with children checks"when required to do so.correct me if i`m wrong but i think if all of us sent letters to the newspapers here in australia ,the different members of parliment here,we would demonstate that the victorian judicial system here is under scrutiny to do the right thing in the eyes of the world.. we all complain that the wtb&ts/jehovahs witnesses is a cult religion that sucks,destroying family relationships,here is a chance to do something about it.
whether you agree with steven unthank or not,here is an opportunity to stick up for the children of jehovah`s witnesses and every other child that a witness calls on in their door to door ministry.. what do you think ?.
smiddy.
John-Paul Langbroek's sister lives (I believe) in Victoria and has been quite vocal re her upbringing as a JW. She is somewhat of a media personality. I don't really have any specific suggestions as to how he may be approached and I know he is from QLD (Xenephon is SA I believe) but thought it may be useful info to throw into the mix. I haven't ever engaged in a letter writing campaign (except for Malawi) so am not a very useful 'think-tank' member.
this is a very long story-probably requires at least 2 threads, but i'll try:.
my 93 yr. old widowed destitute mother has dementia.
i am her only child.
I also have a long story which I'm happy to share if you wish to pm me - I talked a little of my situatuion on the thread of the death of jwfact's father but have more I could share about what seems to be almost parallel situations.
this is a sugestion i have to all members of this board ,members from all over the world, to let the victorian government in australia know that the world is concerned about protecting the children of victoria ,and theirby setting a precedent for the rest of the world, who are interested in the outcome of the criminal charges against the religion of jehovah`s witnesses in refusing to abide by the legislation to get "working with children checks"when required to do so.correct me if i`m wrong but i think if all of us sent letters to the newspapers here in australia ,the different members of parliment here,we would demonstate that the victorian judicial system here is under scrutiny to do the right thing in the eyes of the world.. we all complain that the wtb&ts/jehovahs witnesses is a cult religion that sucks,destroying family relationships,here is a chance to do something about it.
whether you agree with steven unthank or not,here is an opportunity to stick up for the children of jehovah`s witnesses and every other child that a witness calls on in their door to door ministry.. what do you think ?.
smiddy.
This person was raised as a JW - parents were Gilead grads:
i read very little wts propaganda these days, even on-line stuff .
unless it's for a specific purpose.
most of you will identify with that.. i perused this article while checking out something else and was disturbed by the manipulative reasoning directed at jw youths.
nice_Dream
That quote gives me the same warm fuzzy feeling as the thread about the old paradise book.
this weekend serious sources told me that in the netherlands the society is closing down all non-native congregations.
because of the mixed population of this country, there are >100 non-native congregations like english, france, dutch-caribian, arab, chinese, italian, russian, spanish etc.. my source was backing the dissision of the society because "these non-native congregations are islands on their own, with group-thinking and not allways listening to the society..." and concluded "these non-natives has to learn dutch instead of we are learning their language".. strange: some years ago many jw's learned a foreign language (like arab or chinese!
) and now they are all closing down.
Too true about the demographics of the foreign language groups/congregaions and some of the sisters/pioneers were in stark contrast to the elders chosen to work with (sort out) the groups. They always seemed to be the most inappropriate choices. It also provided an extended marriage pool for locals. The groups allowed the people to have some mutual (cultural) support which, in my experience - the local brothers weren't interested in supplying anyway. There always seemed to be the idea that the FLG weren't up to scratch spiritually - but that may have just been where I was....xenophobia was/is alive and well.
this morning on gma they showed film reports from north korea.
the people were beyond grief.
when the anchor queried the expert as to whether this was pure propoganda, the expert said no.
QwB is correct. The tears are not just fake, for a couple of reasons.
The grieving process is different. In many non-western cultures people display mourning behaviour that is sometimes refered to as professional mourning which, while to the western way of thinking may be true, it is a valid part of the grieving process. If you have ever been to a funeral in an Asian country you will know what I mean when I talk of different/more outwardly emotional behaviour. This may fire-up at different times with different attendees, hence the people looking on that may seem uninvolved.
Also, they may be crying for their uncertain future - these are the country's lucky people, so not the ordinary folk - as well as ( no doubt) the people who feel it is a good idea to so.
The book, The Aquariums of Pyongyang is an interesting insight into the world of Nth Korea for anyone intersted.
