No offence Witch, it's a cute name. I just like real manly names I guess
I like boys names for girls though.......... go figure!!!!
Ven
we can't agree on a name for our soon to be born baby boy.. i love the name tristen.
he hates it.. he wants a basic name like bobby, tony, etc.. is there a name that sounds like tristen but isn't?.
give me some ideas if you can.
No offence Witch, it's a cute name. I just like real manly names I guess
I like boys names for girls though.......... go figure!!!!
Ven
we can't agree on a name for our soon to be born baby boy.. i love the name tristen.
he hates it.. he wants a basic name like bobby, tony, etc.. is there a name that sounds like tristen but isn't?.
give me some ideas if you can.
I think Tristen is a cute name, for a girl though, doesn't sound like a boys name to me for some reason.
My fav boy name is 'Merrick' I just love that name!!!!
Ven
i know there are soo many new people on this board in the past year or so, and i haven't been posting a whole lot lately i've been busy with school and what not, but i did want to kind of give a bit of an update and hopefully some encouragement for those that are in the process of leaving the borg, and have left friends and family behind.
in the summer of 2000 my entire world shattered around me.
for more details you can click here.
I thought this was one of your more interesting posts Venice...
I'm afraid to know what you think of the others
Thanks EVERYONE I luv you all, and being here and being able to share my thoughts and feelings. I know some of you were worried about me, hell so was I. I'm on the upswing though now. Thanks for your love and kindness, happy holidays!!!
Ven
we made it!!!!
we got here yesterday afternoon, after a loooonnnngggg flight.....6 hours.
two of our group came from boston, so they had a really long day.
it's a bit early but as we are leaving town i had no choice but to do this now.
sunday is mulan and big red's fortieth wedding anniversary.
they were kind enough to want to share the celebration with their family so we are going to hawaii with them tomorrow for two weeks!.
ahhhh you guys look soooo widdle!!!!!!
Happy Anniversary!!!!!!!!
Ven
http://www.cybersalt.org/cleanlaugh/madcow.htm .
hope you like it.
venice
Ok maybe I haven't grown too much I still find this funny
Ven
i know there are soo many new people on this board in the past year or so, and i haven't been posting a whole lot lately i've been busy with school and what not, but i did want to kind of give a bit of an update and hopefully some encouragement for those that are in the process of leaving the borg, and have left friends and family behind.
in the summer of 2000 my entire world shattered around me.
for more details you can click here.
Thanks everyone, this board has been a real important part of my progress and growth, thank you so much for everything!!!
Riz keep us posted, looks like they're cleaning out eh???
Ven
i know there are soo many new people on this board in the past year or so, and i haven't been posting a whole lot lately i've been busy with school and what not, but i did want to kind of give a bit of an update and hopefully some encouragement for those that are in the process of leaving the borg, and have left friends and family behind.
in the summer of 2000 my entire world shattered around me.
for more details you can click here.
Smacks 'No One' Thanks a lot !!!!
hahahahhahah
Ven
i know there are soo many new people on this board in the past year or so, and i haven't been posting a whole lot lately i've been busy with school and what not, but i did want to kind of give a bit of an update and hopefully some encouragement for those that are in the process of leaving the borg, and have left friends and family behind.
in the summer of 2000 my entire world shattered around me.
for more details you can click here.
I know there are soo many new people on this board in the past year or so, and I haven't been posting a whole lot lately I've been busy with school and what not, but I did want to kind of give a bit of an update and hopefully some encouragement for those that are in the process of leaving the borg, and have left friends and family behind. In the Summer of 2000 my entire world shattered around me. For more details you can click here. (http://www.geocities.com/veniceexjw/ click on 'my story). I lost EVERYONE I'd ever known or cared about with the exception of my parents. I cried for about weeks straight and after that over the next months I would just break down in the middle whatever I was doing, shopping, driving, whatever it was embarrassing. I went into deep depression although at the time I did't know this, not sure it that would have helped or not. We then moved across the country where we knew NO ONE!!!! I was very sick and spent much of my time in bed or on the couch, and I was so devastated and depressed. So I decided to try and forget about the past, put it behind me, deny those feelings, the loss all of it. Act like they didn't exist. I did this especially with my sister, I wouldn't look at pictures or talk about her hardly I just wanted to forget at this point I was not ready to deal with it. Well this past week or so things have changed for me, I suddenly reliased that I could think about my sister. I've been able to talk about her, and the things we'd done. (we'd worked together for years as well) I decided this past week to let her back into my life again. I do have a sister, one that I love and care about and I know she feels the same way. I no longer need to deny that. The biggest test of this was the fact that I spent much of this weekend watching family videos!!!!! For so long I didn't even like to touch that shelf where they were at, and suddenly I knew it was time. We watched all kinds of things, trips and family parties from when I was 13 through our last trip with them. I even was able to watch video of my niece Ashley and you know what?? I didn't cry at all. Not even a tear (and I cry at Hallmark Commercials), I was able to remember and laugh and act like they're still a part of my life, they just don't live here. I was just amazed at how much I'd healed, and my parents as well. It was so warm and comforting to see all the family and the fun we used to have, esp with this being the holidays and all. It took 2 1/2 years for me. For some people it will be longer for others shorter, but time does heal wounds. So do friends and life in general. I have truly grown so much from this experience and I just wanted to let others who were in a similar position to know that yes it does get better. The thing I had to realize was I could not change the circumstances, but I could Change how I reacted and adapted to them. Did anything change with my sister? NO, but huge changes happened to me, and now I'm happy. We can't change others but we can change our perception, and it takes time. Now I look back and I had to feel that pain, that desperation it brought me to where I am now. Life is a journey full of good and bad, I'd spent my whole life trying to deny or repress the 'bad' but now I think it's important, explore the pain, explore your 'dark' side FEEL it!!!! if you just repress the pain it will always be there to haunt you, but if you allow yourself to feel it, you can process it. If your Happy BE HAPPY, if your Sad be SAD feel it, live it, admit it, deal with it, and release it. LIVE YOUR LIFE!!!!!! To the fullest everyday. Do wild crazy things to make you feel alive. I just got done reading a WONDERFUL book called 'Succulent Wild Women' by SARK. She has a ton of great books about how to live your life to the fullest, and how to 'live juicy' as she likes to call it. She comes from an abused past and just has a wonderful way of looking at the world. I know it really helped me, and recomend it to everyone (even Men ). here is her website http://www.campsark.com Ven
Edited by - VeniceIT on 23 December 2002 11:45:29
the elders came over this morning as promised.
he called before to explain why so as not to show up under false pretenses.
he said yesterday when he called, he was with a service group so he said he was an "old friend" and wanted to come visit.
Donkey that's EXACTLY what it feels like, I wrote this up ohh what 2 years ago now wow,
If Id been tried on H2O heres what part of my trial might have sounded like:
JWS: An Apostate! An Apostate! An Apostate! We've got an Apostate! An Apostate!
FRED HALL: We have found an Apostate, might we disfellowship her?
JWS: Disfellowship her! Disfellowship!
YK: How do you know she is a Apostate?
FRIDAY: She looks talks one.
YK: Bring her forward.
VENICE: I'm not a Apostate. I'm not a Apostate.
YK: But they say you speak like one.
VENICE: Its all things they have taught.
JWS: No, we didn't... no.
VENICE: the WTS is not a true prophet; it's a false one.
YK: Well?
FRED HALL: Well, we did change some things.
YK: The dates?
FRED HALL: And some doctrines -- but she is a Apostate!
JWS: Disfellowship her! Apostate! Apostate! Disfellowship her!
YK: Did you teach her these things?
JWS: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
FRED HALL: She has got a different Bible.
YK: What makes you think she is a Apostate?
7: Well, shes done research on our religion.
YK: Research?
7: Yes, she found out the truth!
FRIDAY: Disfellowship her anyway!
JWS: Disfellowship! Disfellowship her!
YK: Quiet, quiet. Quiet! There are ways of telling whether
she is a Apostate.
JWS: Are there? What are they?
YK: Tell me, what do you do with Apostates?
FRIDAY: Disfellowship!
JWS: Disfellowship, disfellowship them up!
YK: And what do you disfellowship apart from Apostates?
FRED HALL: More Apostates!
FRIDAY: Sinners?
YK: So, why do we disfellowship Apostates?
[pause]
7: B--... 'cause they're made of wood...?
YK: Good!
JWS: Oh yeah, yeah...
YK: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
FRED HALL: Build a bridge out of her.
YK: Aah, but can you not also build bridges out of stone?
FRIDAY: Oh, yeah.
YK: Does wood sink in water?
FRED HALL: No, no.
FRIDAY: It floats! It floats!
FRED HALL: Throw her into the pond!
JWS: The pond!
YK: What also floats in water?
FRED HALL: Bread!
FRIDAY: Apples!
7: Very small rocks!
FRED HALL: Cider!
FRIDAY: Great gravy!
FRED HALL: Cherries!
FRIDAY: Mud!
7: Churches -- churches!
FRIDAY: Lead -- lead!
Milton H: A duck.
JWS: Oooh.
YK: Exactly! So, logically...,
FRED HALL: If... she.. weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.
YK: And therefore--?
FRED HALL: An Apostate!
JWS: An Apostate!
YK: We shall use my larger scales!
[yelling]
YK: Right, remove the supports!
[whop]
[creak]
JWS: An Apostate! An Apostate!
VENICE: It's my lawyer!!
JWS: Disfellowship her! Disfellowship! [yelling]
YK: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
MILTON H.: I am a MILTON H., of the GB.
YK: My liege!
MILTON H.: Good Sir knight, will you come with me to Brooklyn,
and join us on the Governing Body?
YK: My liege! I would be honored.
MILTON H.: What is your name?
YK: You Know, my leige.
MILTON H.: Then I dub you Sir YK, Knight of the GB table.