Posts by venus

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When JWs Pray for Houston

by NJ501 in

when i hear prayers given by brothers why do they only pray for other jws not all people??

i remember hearing a comment from my mother saying 4000 jws are affected by this...and i'm thinking yes that is sad but what about the tens of thousands other people affected?

too me it just doesn't seem right to just pray for jws but to pray for all victims.

venus

Spirituality means realizing all humans are our brothers and sisters. (Deut 10:17; Romans 2:11). Praying for a minority is opposite of spirituality.

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No Need For The Delusion Of The Supernatural To Become Human

by Brokeback Watchtower in

"no need for the delusion of the supernatural because the very task of becoming truly human is a colossal achievement.

" rudiger safransky.

i think this means stop believing in fairy tales and get on with your life and be who your supposed to be and not some delusions of the herd's imaginary friend, shit on religious indoctrination and become what your dna wants you to become.

venus

Doing supernatural things by a super-human person cannot inspire human beings who would reason “he can do it, but we are humans.” A flying eagle sets no example for wingless beings.

Humans need no lessons from others. He knows what action makes him happy and what makes him sorrowful when it is done by others. This gives him a pattern to behave with others.

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"The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction." -- Feb 2017 Watchtower

by cognisonance in

full stop.

(paragraph 12 -- feburary 2017 watchtower -- who is leading god's people today?

)so why then would any jw abide by harmful doctrines setup by the governing body (blood, shunning, the two-witness rule, etc)?

venus

This is like saying "square circle" both of which cannot exist together--it is either square or circle.

Similarly, either organization can err which means it is not God-directed, or it cannot err which means it is God-directed.

It cannot be a God-directed organization that can err!

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The true essence of the Bible—there is some problem with it?!

by venus in

in the famous aesop fable, we read about a fox who unsuccessfully tried to get some grapes, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “i am sure they are sour.”.

someone made a second part to this story.

fox did some rehearsal in the night and came on to the scene next day, and jumped with difference and got the grapes from the vine tree, and he began to eat to his full capacity.

venus

everapostate,

Hebrews 9: 27 is an apt scripture you cited. That means arrangement of ransom tricky and very complicated subject which will not work without breaking many already existing laws and logic, hence cannot be from God.

When God does something, we can expect precision like that of periodic table. For example, Gold is element 79 and mercury is element 80, which means that there is only a slight difference between their atomic structures. The mercury atom has one more proton in its nucleus and the corresponding electron in the outer (known as F shell) orbit.

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Todays Text - Classic example of how to twist scripture to your own ends

by doubtfull1799 in

you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “abba, father!”—rom.

those who have received this special invitation from god do not need another witness from any other source.

they do not need someone else to verify what has happened to them.

venus

That's an obvious twisting typical of religious leaders who seldom knows how others would think about their reasoning.

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The true essence of the Bible—there is some problem with it?!

by venus in

in the famous aesop fable, we read about a fox who unsuccessfully tried to get some grapes, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “i am sure they are sour.”.

someone made a second part to this story.

fox did some rehearsal in the night and came on to the scene next day, and jumped with difference and got the grapes from the vine tree, and he began to eat to his full capacity.

venus

David_Jay,

Your last paragraph is ground-breaking--very true. That means Jesus would also know this fact, hence Mathew 20:28 could never have been uttered by Jesus; and iterestingly in the next chapter he says he did not come to die for anyone (Mathew 21:33-39)

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The true essence of the Bible—there is some problem with it?!

by venus in

in the famous aesop fable, we read about a fox who unsuccessfully tried to get some grapes, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “i am sure they are sour.”.

someone made a second part to this story.

fox did some rehearsal in the night and came on to the scene next day, and jumped with difference and got the grapes from the vine tree, and he began to eat to his full capacity.

venus

Half banana,

You are right. Things were borrowed and thoughtlessly incorporated so that analytical minds get stumble on each points. No wonder, the word for world in some languages (such as Arabic, Persian, Dari, Pashto, Urdu ......) is duniya which means no law or logic.

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The true essence of the Bible—there is some problem with it?!

by venus in

in the famous aesop fable, we read about a fox who unsuccessfully tried to get some grapes, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “i am sure they are sour.”.

someone made a second part to this story.

fox did some rehearsal in the night and came on to the scene next day, and jumped with difference and got the grapes from the vine tree, and he began to eat to his full capacity.

venus

smiddy,

to add one more thing:

If people were really resurrected, all those who were resurrected ones such as daughter of Jaiurs, and Lazarus would have been here on earth in eternal youthfulness which would have proved beyond any doubt that Christianity is true, and the whole world would have automatically been converted into Christianity by seeing eternally living young people like Lazarus.

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The true essence of the Bible—there is some problem with it?!

by venus in

in the famous aesop fable, we read about a fox who unsuccessfully tried to get some grapes, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “i am sure they are sour.”.

someone made a second part to this story.

fox did some rehearsal in the night and came on to the scene next day, and jumped with difference and got the grapes from the vine tree, and he began to eat to his full capacity.

venus

smidy, that's an interesting point I never thought of.

That means none of them were actually resurrected--must be fabricated story. If they were really resurrected by Jesus who had "authority on earth to forgive sins" (Mark 2:10), they had never had to die again for sure.

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The true essence of the Bible—there is some problem with it?!

by venus in

in the famous aesop fable, we read about a fox who unsuccessfully tried to get some grapes, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “i am sure they are sour.”.

someone made a second part to this story.

fox did some rehearsal in the night and came on to the scene next day, and jumped with difference and got the grapes from the vine tree, and he began to eat to his full capacity.

venus

Sin did not only decrease, but only increased to the level apostle Paul lamented of a sin being practiced within the congregation which he described “of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate.” (1 Corinthians 5:1, 2) And situation is not different even after 21 centuries.