Samuel Sandmel gives us in "The Genius of Paul" one of the bast understandings of Paul the Apostle that has ever been written; yet in between the lines one can read how Jesus was invented.
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4How Jesus Became Christian
by EdenOne injust wanted to share an interesting read.. i have purchased the ebook "how jesus became christian" by historian and philosopher barrie a. wilson.. it's a book by a scholar but it's not written in dense academic language, thus, is easily readable by the general public (unlike, for example, the incredibly dense "james, the brother of jesus", by robert eisenman).
in this book, wilson invites the reader to inquiry how the 'jesus movement' and his early followers, entirely part of the jewish framework, became metamorphosed into the 'christ movement' that rejected the torah, and was much more related to mystical religions of the greco-roman world.
how did this change came about?
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Folly of claiming “only we have the truth”
by venus inone’s mindset and its conditioning pursue what one believes to be the “truth” which it says ‘i can perceive with my senses.
this makes possible for the life to be perceived in many different ways.
imagine all were born blind.
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Dear LoveUniHateExamsWhen I wrote about water, I was trying to show that truth changes according to circumstance. Ask: Does the sun rise in the east? You will have many contradicting answers, yet all are right to the level of understanding capacity of the listener.
Sun rises in the East (right for the ordinary)
Where the sun rises is East (right for the educated)
Sun never rises nor sets (right for the highly educated ones)
You also ask: “Does 'truth' even exist?”
1) It depends on your definition of what truth is. When someone is owning up what he says you may say he is truthful. Finding someone as speaking truth during a job interview, you may appoint him in your company. But when you find his later actions as proving that he was only trying to impress you during interview with his truthfulness which he obviously used as a means to get into your company to undermine your good-will, what you called truth in the beginning would be actually falsehood in the over-all perspective even though it s true in the limited perspective.
2) During war time, what is normal activity like driving the vehicle with head-light on during the night would be wrong. And during peace, driving the vehicle without head-light on during night would be wrong. Yet there is an underlying principle that remains unchanged which you can call truth—safety of the people during peace time, and safety of the country as a whole during war time.
In the broader perspective we can say what exists is true—what is transient is true for a limited period, and what remains as the invisible support to the transient is true for unlimited period. For example, a seed has a physical appearance which remains for some time and disappears later. Yet it has an invisible software programme in which future generations remain protected which can be called true for longer period.
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Now Scottish history disproves the flood
by Splash inwt state that the global flood that wiped everything away happened in 2370 bce.. there's been a wealth of evidence from many quarters which prove that life continued as normal for civilizations during that time period.. now scotland adds to that body of evidence as detailed in this bbc report:.
neolithic orkney - new study.
key dates indicated by the study.
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Even Chinese civilization continued untouched by the so-called "global flood."
What I find it difficult to digest is that God chose such an option of flood which caused more trouble to the righteous man Noah and his small family than those who were destroyed in flood--they had to endure a suffering of a few minutes, then we find God repenting about His action (which would not happen with God)
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John 1:3
by Hi y-all injohn 1:3 states in the nwt, "all things came into existence through him, and apart from him (the word, or jesus) not even one thing came into existence.".
the wt states apart from him one thing came into existence, that is, jesus the first created being.. is there an explanation for this apparent contradiction?.
thanks!.
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The whole gospel of John was written later with a view to validate the Holy Mass celebration of the Church, hence we find elaborate explanation about 'this is my flesh and blood ...." which would not have been missed by other gospel writers who wrote earlier to John. Internal evidence too suggests that gospel is a later invention. For example, For example, Jesus did not say what is reportedly said in John 3:13 where it says he ascended into heaven at the very start of his ministry (which brings the question: then who did all the works attributed to Jesus?); and it follows, if John 3:13 is based on imagination then following verses such as John 3:16 on which the main purpose of Jesus' coming on to earth is built upon is also imaginary!]
If the whole gospel is based on imagination, then John 1:3 too would lack meaning.
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If You Question The Governing Body, You're Like Korah
by pale.emperor inanyone who questions the governing bodys authority is labelled as an apostate and almost always they bring up the story of korah and his revolt against moses.. watchtower august 1st, 2002, the article loyally submit to godly authority paragraphs 8-15.. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002563.
in not so subtle hint, the gb likens themselves to moses, and those who disagree with the gb are korah.. paragraph 15 is actually quite damaging to the gb's argument though:.
it was so unnecessary for all those people to lose their lives.
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Characters like Korah are created to safeguard authority of leaders
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Folly of claiming “only we have the truth”
by venus inone’s mindset and its conditioning pursue what one believes to be the “truth” which it says ‘i can perceive with my senses.
this makes possible for the life to be perceived in many different ways.
imagine all were born blind.
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loveunihateexams,
Is water life saving?
Yes, when you drink in moderation
No, when you drink excessively, when you are drown ... etc
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Folly of claiming “only we have the truth”
by venus inone’s mindset and its conditioning pursue what one believes to be the “truth” which it says ‘i can perceive with my senses.
this makes possible for the life to be perceived in many different ways.
imagine all were born blind.
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One’s mindset and its conditioning pursue what one believes to be the “truth” which it says ‘I can perceive with my senses. This makes possible for the Life to be perceived in many different ways. Imagine all were born blind. Certainly, we could have built a normal society made for blind people. Other senses rather than vision could have taken precedence.
Speaking about light, colors… etc. in that world of blindness would only be labeled as “crazy.”Interestingly, even if all had vision, that still doesn’t guarantee true vision of the reality. For example, identically sized lines can appear to be different lengths when placed between converging parallel lines. (for more examples http://www.bbc.com/future/bespoke/story/20150130-how-your-eyes-trick-your-mind/index.html). If mind can be tricked by what physical eyes see, how much more it would be tricked when it ventures into the realm of the invisible such as what is before and after this life … what was before Big Bang … God and His purpose etc. Hence we have conflicted religions and scriptures with God doing nothing to correct it as though He wants everyone to make his thrilling search.
Greater ability to perceive means an expanded vision of reality, yet that perception is far from what could be labeled as “real.” When we place our energy in understanding our own perceptions, rather than in using the convenient labels of “right, wrong, true, false, bad and good,” then any sort of judgment is out. Certainly we may need to act as our society dictates.
If someone harms another, there are laws. There are consequences, but judgment is a human invention which humans wrongly applied to God, hence we have the scriptures that speak of a Last Judgment which in turn gave rise to preachers. [Bible itself shows Jesus is the invention of some imaginative minds. For example, Jesus did not say what is reportedly said in John 3:13 where it says he ascended into heaven at the very start of his ministry [which brings the question: then who did all the works attributed to Jesus?]; and it follows, if John 3:13 is based on imagination then following verses such as John 3:16 on which the main purpose of Jesus' coming on to earth is also imaginary!]Compassion arrives when we understand that there is only one relationship (fraternity) and there are many ways to perceive/experience Life. That openness will free us with further understanding which will reflect in a peaceful disposition. A religion that does not recognize this fact has only a tunnel vision.
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2018 Special Talk Outline: “Who Really is Jesus Christ?”
by wifibandit inrevision date: 8/17.
the talk outline “jesus christ—earth’s new ruler” has been discontinued and should no longer be used.
it has been replaced by “who really is jesus christ?”note: this is the special public talk outline for 2018. the talk will be given in most congregations the week of monday, march 19, 2018.. .
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slimboyfat,
You made me laugh like anything!
Bible itself shows Jesus is the invention of some imaginative minds. For example, Jesus did not say what is reportedly said in John 3:13 where it says he ascended into heaven at the very start of his ministry [which brings the question: then who did all the works attributed to Jesus?]. it follows, if John 3:13 is based on imagination then following verses such as John 3:16 on which the main purpose of Jesus' coming on to earth is also imaginary!
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The Best Is Yet To Come
by Lostandfound inin my memory irecall a phase many years ago when this phrase seemed to be on everyone's lips "the best isyet to come".
my of this may be not very clear but one thing is clear, nothing better ever came, silver sword, videos, caleb trash, lowering decorum, down, down, down.
i dread to think what worse would be like!.
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An EMP attack can cripple the world economy
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lf you could be god would you and why and what would you change?
by atomant innot sure if this question has been asked before but thought it would be interesting to read peoples response..
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I am also for God directly speaking to us, thus clearing all doubts for ever.