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  Pseudonyms

  by no-zombie in

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  one of this things that constantly reminds me of the extent and the reach the organization has into our lives, is the fact we all need pseudonyms to have a conversation or to make a comment in this even here in this place.

  even when people have left the society (by however it has occurred), its rare to see somebody change their online presence to their personal name.. now i'm not expecting people to do that of course, fore we are all free to do what we like (which is the real beauty of this forum) but the fact that it doesn't occur that often, shows how much we've all been effected by being told over and over again, "not to be critical of god's organization".

  of course there could be an number so side issues at play here; with some people not wanting to burn their bridges in an attempt to keep what reputation they have left intact and sadly a small minority others, do enjoy the anonymity to just talk trash ... but if a person can not feel free to stand up and respectfully make a critical comment or ask a thorny question without fear of repercussion from their religion, then doesn't it show that there is no real freedom in that faith.

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  venus

  It shows how much people have been spoiled by the cultic geneius of WT leadership.
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  If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

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  if god’s people can’t see anti-god verses in the bible, how can they be god’s people?.

  jehovah is the “god of the gentiles also” and “there is no impartiality with god,” says the bible.

  (romans 3:29; deuteronomy 10:17).

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  venus

  *Just like universe is made of 4% visible things and of 96% "dark matter and dark energy,"

  *Just as our actions are done 5% consciously and 95 unconsciously,

  Bible is also composed of both--few inspired verses and much of uninspired verses, most of which depicts God anthropomorphically. That means we can find some anti-God verses also in the Bible.
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  A thinking man coming to grips with the Bible

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  no ego and no agenda--and yet--a thinking-out-loud tour of what the lasting value ofbiblical teaching might mean.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wwbgo6a2w.

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  venus

  His analysis of myth (as reflection of the time of its writing, hence as real as the envelop it come in) makes sense. For example take the case of Bible as a myth: As the myth unfold we find a nation claiming to be God’s chosen people and meeting with its inevitable end with Empires such as Babylon and Romans proving them wrong. This plot is as real as the envelop (called Bible), the frame of the fiction. Try the same at anytime--we get the same result.

  Tragedy is that people do not take lesson from myth, not even from own experience. In one mythological story, God of death tells "He who has no debts is truly happy." This is what everyone knows--yet look at the rulers/leaders (governments)--all of them choose deficit budget spending more than income, and go on a spree of borrowing or printing (easy) money (Fiat system) which would meet its necessary dead-end at one point.
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  If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if god’s people can’t see anti-god verses in the bible, how can they be god’s people?.

  jehovah is the “god of the gentiles also” and “there is no impartiality with god,” says the bible.

  (romans 3:29; deuteronomy 10:17).

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  The most obvious lesson the Bible teaches is that God would defeat the purpose of a nation if they claim to be God’s chosen people. See what Empires such as Babylon and Romans did to the people who made such a claim—a fact that is well-documented in the Bible and also in secular history. JWs don’t seem to understand this too obvious lesson.
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  Can someone please explain James 5:14 for me

  by preymanchis in

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  i cant seem to understand this text actually, can someone please explain it to me.

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  venus

  enjoyed the humor, fulano
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  Canada Branch Financials are Posted (The Bleeding Appears Very Real)

  by berrygerry in

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  posted here:.

  https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=740aq85115d1a04174c4d867e056351ad6836.

  biggest changes:.

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  venus

  That means JWs are also following the spirit of worldly governments (whom they describe as tools of Satan) who thrive on deficit budget setting a harmful example for the followers: "Spend more than income, and get into the spree of borrowing."

  Look at the shocking number of governments:

  https://countryeconomy.com/deficit
  
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  Previous sect in the Watchtower lineage

  by GLTirebiter in

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  here is an article talking about william miller's great disappointment and a utopian settlement established by one of his followers, peter armstrong.

  the author's statements reveal several similarities between the millerites and their successors, the watchtower bible and tract society:.

  founded in pennsylvania.

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  That is the fate of all those who take Bible as a basis of prediction. During the American Civil War the North used the Bible to attack slavery while the South used the Bible to promote slavery. Many are not aware that the opposite positions can be both promoted and attacked using the Bible.
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  Can someone please explain James 5:14 for me

  by preymanchis in

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  i cant seem to understand this text actually, can someone please explain it to me.

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  Cold Steel,

  Greatest enemy of miracles is Bible itself. While it reports about miracles such as curing the blind, resurrecting the dead ... it also gives weightier reasons to doubt those reporting because recipients of those miracles do not respond befitting the recipients. None of them came in defense of Jesus while he was falsely being tried in the royal court, nor they came for preaching activity even after Jesus left the stage. Why people come to die for terrorist leaders while Lazarus did not come forward for Jesus? Because as Cofty says they are all myths.

  You also said: "Even today there are miraculous healings that take place because of the faith of those being healed."

  If you lose one of your legs or hands, why faithhealers of today are unable to cure it? This is because miracles happen "always in the past, in the forgotten history, not in present tense."
  
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  Bible Teach Book points the finger at JW's themselves!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  one of my all-time favourite illustrations:.

  bible teach, chap.

  16 p. 154 pars.

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  JW teaching of Issue of Sovereignty is more than poison because it reduces God into a slave going after Satan into any extreme till Satan is satisfactorily pleased.
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  Can someone please explain James 5:14 for me

  by preymanchis in

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  2. bible

  i cant seem to understand this text actually, can someone please explain it to me.

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  A change in the mental disposition can produce positive or negative changes in the body as shown by the Placebo Effect and we all know that a placebo could be anything with no active therapeutic effect—yet in some people it has curing effect and in some people it doesn’t have. It means prayer can work as a placebo—curing some and not curing others. Thus James 5:14 can have both applications—literal and figurative.