Witnessing by going to house to house was the only known method in the first century. Today more and effective witnessing could be done without resorting to house-to-house (or going out in person) using all available modes of communication. Going out in person is like using a boat to travel across a river even when there is a bridge just because one's ancestors used to cross that river by boat as there was no bridge in their time.
Posts by venus
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20WT gives up on making disciples! No joke!
by nowwhat? inyep, taps out, throws in the towel, waves the white flag!
in today's watchtower it basically said don't expect any results due to widespread apathy and opposition.
but you can still bear fruit just by going through the motions of being regular in field service.
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Lengthy letter re: End Time Events / read ONLY if you still believe in God.
by mother Teresa inshalom,.
my mom's family is mostly jws.
during her second marriage, i attended the weekly meeting and sunday meetings (by my own choice) with a family in the very small town we lived, since my mom didn’t attend.
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You take Moses as a historical person because you follow the crowd. If your make an objective reading of first 5 books you will find many reasons to change your beliefs.
You also believe in the second advent of Jesus which the Bible said would happen in the generation of Bible writers themselves: "These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come" (1Cor 10:11)
In fact, this world has no problem, hence no need of ending it. What is really happening is that once this world was new with all the species now extinct, and now this world has become old, just like any tree becoming old in time. Becoming old is not a problem, but is a natural process meant for everything we know. Just like seed-tree-seed mechanism works eternally, the present old world would also become new not in the manner Scriptures describe; but the Supreme Seed, God Almighty would do it in His own way and in His own time. And because He is the Father of all mankind, He will do a perfect and just job giving no reason for anybody to feel unhappy.
What is the guarantee?
look at your own body, it is a living body. What is life? "Life is the principle of self-renewal, it is constantly renewing and remaking and changing." (Boris Pasternak)
If this can happen to our body, the same can happen to the earth, our mother or home whatever you may call it.
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Child sacrifice and Jesus' sacrifice
by Whynot injeremiah 7:31 says, "they have built the high places of toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that i had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’".
according to this scripture it's unthinkable for jehovah to be pleased with child sacrifices.
but yet he sent his son to be killed as a sacrifice for all?.
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I agree with Pistoff
Teaching of ransom is a problematic one.
1)If this teaching originated from God, then it would mean God reached rock-bottom without a solution to a simple problem, and son who gave his life becomes greater than the Father automatically as no part is played by the Father.
2)It would also mean God of justice could not come up with a just solution because humans are saved at the cost an innocent life—a teaching you cannot teach to your children.
3)It is incomprehensible that sin is fought with another sin (murder of an innocent person)
4)Above all, it is unnecessary because solution was already in existence “eye for an eye, tooth for tooth” which simply means ‘one has to reap what he sows’ (Galatians 6:7; Hosea 8:7)
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Child sacrifice and Jesus' sacrifice
by Whynot injeremiah 7:31 says, "they have built the high places of toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that i had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’".
according to this scripture it's unthinkable for jehovah to be pleased with child sacrifices.
but yet he sent his son to be killed as a sacrifice for all?.
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Hi Perry,
1) Please compare Mathew 20:25-28 and its parallel account found in Luke (Luke 22-25-27) which Luke himself says he wrote after carefully examining all the available sources 1:3
“You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 2and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— 28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” (Mathew 20:25-28)
“The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them, and those in authority over them are called benefactors. But not so with you. Rather, let the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the leader as one who serves. For who is the greater, one who reclines at table or one who serves? Is it not the one who reclines at table? But I am among you as the one who serves. "(Luke 22:25-27)
2) John the Baptists is reported to have said: ““Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” (John 1:29) John the Baptist would not say this because he is aware of what Jeremiah wrote in 7:22, 31; 8:8 and what Moses wrote in Deuteronomy 24:16; What Ezekiel wrote in 18:20 ….etc. all of which say ‘one person cannot atone for the sins of another person.’
Moreover, ideas are put into the mouth of John the Baptists by the same writer who wrote inherently contradictory verse found in John 3:13 which Jesus never made. For example, John the Baptists says he is not Elijah in John 1:21 which is flat rejection of what Jesus said in Mathew 11:14
3) Anyhow Jesus was sure that he was sent not die for the sins of the world: “Listen to another parable: There was a landowner who planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a wine press in it and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place. When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit.
“The tenants seized his servants; they beat one, killed another, and stoned a third. Then he sent other servants to them, more than the first time, and the tenants treated them the same way. Last of all, he sent his son to them. ‘They will respect my son,’ he said.” (Mathew 21:33-37)
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Child sacrifice and Jesus' sacrifice
by Whynot injeremiah 7:31 says, "they have built the high places of toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that i had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’".
according to this scripture it's unthinkable for jehovah to be pleased with child sacrifices.
but yet he sent his son to be killed as a sacrifice for all?.
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Jesus had no idea that he came to die for the sins of the world (Mathew 9:13) and made this clear through an illustration so that no one can get a different meaning. (Mathew 21:37)
The spurious reference to his death as a sacrifice for sin-atonement found in Mathew 20:25-28 is deleted from Luke's careful wordings:
And he said to them, “The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them, and those in authority over them are called benefactors. But not so with you. Rather, let the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the leader as one who serves. For who is the greater, one who reclines at table or one who serves? Is it not the one who reclines at table? But I am among you as the one who serves. "(Luke 22:25-27)
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Why a Belief or Non Belief in the existence of "A God" or "The God" is Futile {In My Opinion}
by smiddy3 inbecause their are so many different god`s worshiped in the world today and none of them have made themselves known to us in this 21st century for all of mankind to see and verify .. all of the gods worshiped today are from hundreds and even thousands of years ago derived from ancient writings and texts in languages that are no longer in use today.. that of course brings up problems of another sort translating an ancient language into its modern day equivalent.. and nobody is in total agreement that such translations are accurate or correct anyway.. and their is no god coming to the rescue of translators to say which is the right interpretation.
they are mute.. i`m not just talking about christianity/ judaism either, the same goes for all non christian religions too.. its a total cop out to say one must have faith to believe in god .
"faith, belief in religious doctrines divine truth without proof" and no verification from any god christian/islam/judaism or otherwise ..
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Hi AllTimeJeff,
God may not have shown up the way you expect, but His works are easily discernible to those who want to see. Here is an example of one of former atheists:
“The God of the Bible is also the God of the genome. He can be worshiped in the cathedral or in the laboratory. His creation is majestic, awesome, intricate, and beautiful.” (The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief (2006), p. 211, Francis S Collins)
“I was an atheist, finding no reason to postulate the existence of any truths outside of mathematics, physics and chemistry. But then I went to medical school, and encountered life and death issues at the bedsides of my patients. Challenged by one of those patients, who asked "What do you believe, doctor?", I began searching for answers. (cnn.com)
Here is his most famous quote: “It's a happy day for the world. It is humbling for me, and awe-inspiring, to realize that we have caught the first glimpse of our own instruction book, previously known only to God” (The Language of God) He is a physician-geneticist, noted for his landmark discoveries of disease genes, and his administration of the Human Genome Project (HGP). He is the former director of the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI) and current director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).
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Why a Belief or Non Belief in the existence of "A God" or "The God" is Futile {In My Opinion}
by smiddy3 inbecause their are so many different god`s worshiped in the world today and none of them have made themselves known to us in this 21st century for all of mankind to see and verify .. all of the gods worshiped today are from hundreds and even thousands of years ago derived from ancient writings and texts in languages that are no longer in use today.. that of course brings up problems of another sort translating an ancient language into its modern day equivalent.. and nobody is in total agreement that such translations are accurate or correct anyway.. and their is no god coming to the rescue of translators to say which is the right interpretation.
they are mute.. i`m not just talking about christianity/ judaism either, the same goes for all non christian religions too.. its a total cop out to say one must have faith to believe in god .
"faith, belief in religious doctrines divine truth without proof" and no verification from any god christian/islam/judaism or otherwise ..
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Why a Belief or Non Belief in the existence of "A God" or "The God" is Futile {In My Opinion}
by smiddy3 inbecause their are so many different god`s worshiped in the world today and none of them have made themselves known to us in this 21st century for all of mankind to see and verify .. all of the gods worshiped today are from hundreds and even thousands of years ago derived from ancient writings and texts in languages that are no longer in use today.. that of course brings up problems of another sort translating an ancient language into its modern day equivalent.. and nobody is in total agreement that such translations are accurate or correct anyway.. and their is no god coming to the rescue of translators to say which is the right interpretation.
they are mute.. i`m not just talking about christianity/ judaism either, the same goes for all non christian religions too.. its a total cop out to say one must have faith to believe in god .
"faith, belief in religious doctrines divine truth without proof" and no verification from any god christian/islam/judaism or otherwise ..
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Why a Belief or Non Belief in the existence of "A God" or "The God" is Futile {In My Opinion}
by smiddy3 inbecause their are so many different god`s worshiped in the world today and none of them have made themselves known to us in this 21st century for all of mankind to see and verify .. all of the gods worshiped today are from hundreds and even thousands of years ago derived from ancient writings and texts in languages that are no longer in use today.. that of course brings up problems of another sort translating an ancient language into its modern day equivalent.. and nobody is in total agreement that such translations are accurate or correct anyway.. and their is no god coming to the rescue of translators to say which is the right interpretation.
they are mute.. i`m not just talking about christianity/ judaism either, the same goes for all non christian religions too.. its a total cop out to say one must have faith to believe in god .
"faith, belief in religious doctrines divine truth without proof" and no verification from any god christian/islam/judaism or otherwise ..
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smiddy3
That verse/statement is true where ever it is found, it is well known because it is also in the Revelation Book, hence I quoted. It doesn't mean every other verse in the Revelation or Bible is true.
Further it matches with what we expect from elevated personality like God. God need to give us only sustenance and provisions for life's enjoyment. Management also if He handles it would reduce us into robots.
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Why a Belief or Non Belief in the existence of "A God" or "The God" is Futile {In My Opinion}
by smiddy3 inbecause their are so many different god`s worshiped in the world today and none of them have made themselves known to us in this 21st century for all of mankind to see and verify .. all of the gods worshiped today are from hundreds and even thousands of years ago derived from ancient writings and texts in languages that are no longer in use today.. that of course brings up problems of another sort translating an ancient language into its modern day equivalent.. and nobody is in total agreement that such translations are accurate or correct anyway.. and their is no god coming to the rescue of translators to say which is the right interpretation.
they are mute.. i`m not just talking about christianity/ judaism either, the same goes for all non christian religions too.. its a total cop out to say one must have faith to believe in god .
"faith, belief in religious doctrines divine truth without proof" and no verification from any god christian/islam/judaism or otherwise ..
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A Single Bible verse answers all your questions
“He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” (Revelation 22:11)
This verse is actually history—people want to do what they like. Citizens of each country know what are crimes and what are their punishments, and this knowledge has no influence on many people. Most people worship greed which would mean provisions for enjoyment of life would get depleted/destroyed at some point in time. And God would make such provisions again (Mathew 19:28) because it is not more surprising for a thing to be performed twice (thrice ….any number of times) than once.
This means His role is only to recreate provisions for enjoyment of life. Then He goes into silence till the need arises for next recreation. That means He is interested only in doing favors to His children, and not interested in our response—gratitude/ingratitude, honor/dishonor. For Him it is all like a play; hence the word deum in Latin which means God, or divine one in English. In more ancient Language Sanskrit, the word for God is Dev, from div (meaning “to shine” or from diiv (meaning “to play).