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  My Fathers Memorial Service

  by William Penwell in

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  12 years ago

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  Has anyone noticed a trend where JWs are opting out of having funerals at Kingdom Halls? And not even in funeral home parlors where local elders take charge of the production...

  I haven't been to a lot of JW funerals the last few years, but the ones I did attend, it was the older folks... the uber zealous types that had the 'traditional' JW infomerical style funeral, but among some other, not so dyed-in-the-wool, total zombiefied dubs, they went to more non-traditional services. Especially younger generations who are starting to face the deaths of family and friends that they never thought possible before.

  More cremations. More private memorials, with only close friend and family memorial services at a favorite vacation or nature spot of the deceased.

  Not a huge trend, but enough to make me realize that many dubs would prefer to have a real memorial service eulogizing the deceased instead of the JW style of talk, that turns into a recruitment speech.

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  14 months after printing the "Steve and Selma" article, guess what the Society's latest Awake is about...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  12 years ago

  you guessed it.... .

  http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&issue=201304&output=html&pub=g&langwritten=e&option=trgchlzrqvnyvrxf&txtcmslang=e.

  cedars.

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  Don't forget - this is an Awake! article. The magazine designed for non-JWs to learn about JWs and hopefully by intriqued enough to learn more and become one (Ha!).

  The Watchtower is the magazine studied at the KH, and is the magazine referred to when doctrinal questions arise.

  If a JW spouse has domestic violence issues and goes to the elders, they are going to pull the WT article(s) out as reference when 'counseling' the spouse.

  Despicable, yes. But it is also typical, as this is the standard WT doublespeak. Say one thing to outsiders, indoctrinate the followers differently.

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  Here is the funeral talk outline. VERY discraceful.

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  14 years ago

  this is truly terrible.

  i just love the statement "instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.

  " in other words, utterly disregard the deceased.

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  The last JW funeral I went to, the speaker wandered away from the WT script somewhat. He did a pretty good job of talking about the actual deceased(aside from JW stuff). I was impressed early on. I think because there was a lot of non-JW family present, he felt the need to tailor at least part of the talk to appeal to them...or at least suck them into his confidence. That's where he was a sneaky bastard. We were all feeling warm and fuzzy about her experiences that he shared and then... he dropped the guilt bomb. Her favoritest thing to do in the world, according to him, was to talk to others about God and his promises for mankind. He then went into full WT mode, laying it on thick. Non-JWs may have felt like they were being preached to a bit too much to their liking, but all the dubs in attendence pretty much left feeling like they needed to step up their game a good bit in order to be accepted by Jehovah. Oh, he was good, no dobut about it. Too bad it was at the expense of someone's death that he was afforded the oppurtunity to further indoctrinate people.

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  A JW got checked in my congo

  by XPeterX in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  12 years ago

  the announcement was something like "[name] got checked".well if he ain't got df'ed then what does this mean?is it based on the bible?where does this policy come from?how is the rest of the congregation supposed to behave to that person in a situation like this?what happened in the background anyway?is he checked for a period of time or what?any restrictions?.

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  You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave

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  Annoying 2/15 WT - Don't Be Stumbled- your Mind Just Misunderstands !

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  12 years ago

  another wt article which causes jw's to doubt their own perceptions of reality.

  ) in this particular article titled " for those loving jehovah, " there is no stumbling block " - the wt society stoops to new, or rather re-hashed lows to insinuate that most if not all jw's really misunderstand causes of stumbling as it's just their minds that are imperfect, messed up, or gone entirely anyway.

  the first abhorrent bit of information here describes a witness man who " fought " with feelings of being homosexual and of course the elders thought they had the perfect antidote to keep him from his alleged " abnormal " desires.

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  They encouraged him to thrw his burden on Jehovah and stressed that the most important thing was to please God.

  I actually like this one. If you're being interrogated by two SS officers elders, all you have to say is, "I've thrown my burden on Jehovah. It's in his hands. He knows my heart. I am at peace. You may go now"

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  How a Service Meeting presentation went horribly wrong

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  12 years ago

  slightly nsfw.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udamzu5z9cu.

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  slightly NSFW

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  Review of Memorial Talk

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  12 years ago

  this is my personal review of the memorial talk for this year.

  take into account that this is a new "outline".

  i put "outline" in quotes because.

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  I see no earth-shaking revelation about the "reduced" status of the anointed.

  They avoid the use of the term "Faithful and Discreet Slave class", which is what the annointed used to be considered. Now they're just "the annointed". Same basic talk, minus mention of the F&DS and none of the dubs will catch the change.

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  A JW got checked in my congo

  by XPeterX in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  12 years ago

  the announcement was something like "[name] got checked".well if he ain't got df'ed then what does this mean?is it based on the bible?where does this policy come from?how is the rest of the congregation supposed to behave to that person in a situation like this?what happened in the background anyway?is he checked for a period of time or what?any restrictions?.

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  I went to the Kingdom Hall and a hockey game broke out...

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  Ahhh bless....

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  12 years ago

  new video on jw.org for kids.

  my kids saw it and laughed out loud.

  i saw it and had reflux.. http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/.

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  Holy Cow...

  Wow... just F'g wow...

  Words fail me

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  Dunkin Donuts........... is anything made there anymore????

  by DaCheech in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  12 years ago

  my kids were good yesterday, so i promised them that i would get them dunking donuts in the morning on the way to dropping them off to school...... on the highway, there is a gas station convenience store with a corner dunkin donuts.............. they usually have everything there.. well my kids could not have their donuts, or muffins, or croissants............... they were not delivered i guess.. so, i left.. i went to another dunkin donuts 3 miles away............. and the same problem.. the other dunkin donuts was a dedicated dunkin only place!!!.

  there's no baking in the place anymore!!!!.

  what are we coming to!.

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  hmmm.. I was always told DD donuts were baked. Okay they're fried, but they're fried different somehow. I'm not an expert on their operations (obviously ) but I can tell the difference in eating them. DD is more cake like than KK. A hot KK glazed melt in your mouth, no chewing required hardly. Maybe it's just the composite of the 'bread' or whatever.

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