I guess it's a good thing that I've been 'out' of this crazy religion so long that I'm not hip to newer buzzwords...
...like, CLAM I'm guessing it's not a fun time at the beach, looking for shells or whatnot.
So, what is CLAM?
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What the heck is CLAM?
by undercover ini guess it's a good thing that i've been 'out' of this crazy religion so long that i'm not hip to newer buzzwords.... ...like, clam i'm guessing it's not a fun time at the beach, looking for shells or whatnot.. so, what is clam?.
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So... what's new with our favourite cult?
by Paralipomenon inhey all, haven't been around for a couple of years.
anything interesting i should get caught up on?.
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Somehow it's all part of Jehovah's will.
Yea, somehow Russia moved the goalposts with Jehovah's blessing. Governments are supposed to turn on Babylon the Great, then on JWs. I wonder what Putin has on Jehovah...
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Bearded students on Ministry school?
by NikL inso at last nights ministry school we had 2...yes that's right two that had parts and gave them with beards.. i found it interesting.
i thought the consensus was that you couldn't have any extra privileges if you wore one.. maybe the school is different?.
anyway, anybody else seen this in the u.s.?.
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I remember some brothers who were going bald just went ahead and finished it off with a razor. Guess what? Big no-no. Elders counseled them on being 'fadish'. Let that wisp of hair grow back and comb it over like a good little slave...
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where was jehovahs hand in the matter?
by nowwhat? inso jah can build a broadcasting studio in record time, provide a cool summer so the new bibles can be printed on time without the presses overheating, but cant deliver his people in russia?!.
if jehovah is going to allow it what good are millions of letters and prayers then?
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Simon's post reminded me of how we were taught about when the nation of Israel fell upon hard times. The WTS always presented this way: Whenever something bad befell the Israelites, you could always trace it back to their falling short in the dedication to good ole Jah.
You're set to fail as a JW. If you fall short in your service, you'll fall on hard times as recompense. If you give everything you have, you're still going to find yourself in a bunker hiding from SWAT teams. The world is against you. You're going to suffer. Get used to it.
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Bearded students on Ministry school?
by NikL inso at last nights ministry school we had 2...yes that's right two that had parts and gave them with beards.. i found it interesting.
i thought the consensus was that you couldn't have any extra privileges if you wore one.. maybe the school is different?.
anyway, anybody else seen this in the u.s.?.
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Some hairstyles for men from the 30s and 40s are now back in vogue. Getting your grandfathers haircut at an old school barber shop are the big thing now. And slathering greasy pomade to hold it all down.
Whadyawannabet that if you came in to the hall with that now hip again look, you'd get called into the back room for a chat about proper grooming...
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JWs in Russia. This short article from TASS is very interesting. "Everything You Need To Know About JWs"
by NikL inremember tass is traditionally pretty much a spokesman for the government.
http://tass.com/world/939582.
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There's enough factual information wrong about that article that any JWs reading it would immediately declare it as inspired by Satan, therefore 'fake news'.
But some of the information is factual, and quite damning. And that's why they're now banned.
I don't like banning any religion. It's wrong based on human rights. But one has to admit that the WTS didn't help itself with their blood doctrine, shunning, and badly handled child abuse cases.
And I hate how it's going to give JWs in 'free' lands more persecution complexes, and scare fringe members back to the fold.
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Serena Williams Pregnant
by wisdomfrombelow innow that she has announced that she is 20 weeks pregnant and not married, what is her status in the cult?
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First of all, she's not a baptized JW, so there's nothing they can do to her.
Second, she's a celebrity. There are several sets of standards when it comes to living in the JW world. Celebrity status gives you more freedom in your dress, grooming, associates, and behavior. Just ask Michael Jackson and Prince. oh wait... nevermind
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Bearded students on Ministry school?
by NikL inso at last nights ministry school we had 2...yes that's right two that had parts and gave them with beards.. i found it interesting.
i thought the consensus was that you couldn't have any extra privileges if you wore one.. maybe the school is different?.
anyway, anybody else seen this in the u.s.?.
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...some other congregations were letting men with beards read the watchtower on stage. What a revolution this was! He was hopeful that it would migrate to his congregation so he could have a beard.
You may be in a cult, if you hope you will be allowed to grow a beard one day...
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At This Point In Time How Would You Feel If You Were Disfellowshipped?
by minimus inbefore my mother's death, it would have impacted me.
now , i wouldn't care..
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I'm with Blondie...
I miss the 'red dot'.
But as far as being DFd, I don't care. I don't bring attention to myself, and I've been gone so long, they really don't pay me any mind. I guess the only way I could be DFd if were someone were to take too much interest in trying to get me to return, and I made it clear that I was an apostate thinker, no longer believing. Even then, I'm not sure they'd go to the trouble.
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Could a petition to make shunning illegal work?
by aboveusonlysky inwe're currently watching leah remini's series about scientology and the main thing she seems to focus on is the shunning policies of the scientology organization which let's face it are very similar to jw procedure.. i was wondering with all that's in the media recently about bullying could a petition be put together to get the goverment to consider making religiously mandated shunning illegal?
has such a thing been tried before?.
https://petition.parliament.uk/help says the following - .
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We all shun. We just do it for personal reasons. You don't like someone, you avoid them. Someone wronged you, or lied about you, you avoid them. It's a choice we make, based on our experiences with that person.
The WTS takes this to a group level. You're in the club, but break the rules. Now you're no longer in the club. The other club members are told you're out, and they collectively shun you. True, it's not based on personal interaction with you, it's based on obedience to the leadership, and compliance with the collective, but break it all the way down, there's nothing you can do about it. Like so many said already, you can't make someone talk to you, or accept you. By not adhering to their rules and traditions, you put yourself in a position of possibly being shunned.
The terrible part of a religious group who practices shunning is how they coerce family members to shun their own family. It is a terrible thing, but even in the 'real' world there are people who have had to disown family members for various reasons. That was a personal decision, based on experiences and facts of dealing with that person. In the JW world, that decision is based on compliance with the WT leadership. No petitions, or laws, are going to change that.