i just had a delivery from fed-ex , i accepted a package for my neighbor at her request since she wouldn't be at home.
the fed-ex guy looked confused as i opened the door.
i cleared up the confusion by telling him that since my neighbor was working, she wanted me to accept her package.
It's a catch-22. You want to fade away and to not be bothered. But you expect to be bothered, and then it doesn't happen. So are you glad that you were able to sneak away or are you upset that no one missed you?
Personally, I'm glad, that for the most part, I wasn't missed or bugged about what was my problem.
hey, just saw prince on the grammys with byonce.
she tried to be all up on his grill but he was no reciprocating.
in fact he looked kind of lame and old, like stuck in a time warp.
Prince can go play at a worldly event with worldly people singing a worldly song(written b4 becoming a JW), but when JWs get together to jam and invite friends to either listen or jam along, it gets squashed by the elders. Go figure.
i've heard on a couple of occasions that it was a frequent practice in bible times for people to use hemp oil.
has anyone else heard this take on the bible before?
is there a way to prove whether its true or not?
I seem to remember Stephen getting stoned.
ROFLMFAO. Now, that's funny.
i have heard of a couple cases in the last year where this happened, and i wonder if its happened to anyone else.. one of my acquaintances from another list moved from portland back to his homestate of maine.
he moved to a small town near the town where he was associated, but had not been associated for over 12 years.
the elders tracked him down after all that time and said they wanted to have a committee meeting so that they could disfellowship him.
The "official" line that I got from some elders in an old hall that I was in is this; if the "erring" one quits associating with the congregation and has little or no contact socially with the congregation, the elders will not go after them. If the "erring" one attempts to come back or socialize with the friends while still living a "sinful" life then they will try to set matters straight.
But what I see is different at times. I hear horror stories like the ones here and then others can drop off the face of the earth and never be bothered with again. I'm guessing it depends on how Nazi like the elders are in each individual congregation or maybe the one being hunted down has embarrassed an elder someway along the way and the elder is trying to get that revenge in, even years later.
much has been said on this forum about the reasons for the jw lack of growth in western lands.
numerous explanations have been put forward for this and for the future prospects of the organization.
but, above all else, i believe that there is one overriding reason behind it all.
As for the future, they have two options ? back away from chronology entirely, becoming more mainstream, or rewrite the chronology with a new set of dates. Both options will have serious fallout. But, if they fail to address this problem, their malaise will continue and deepen.
The Feb 1st WT (I think) reiterated their position as 607 being the destruction of Jerusalem and the chronology from that date to 1914 being the end of the gentile times. Doesn't sound like they're either changing or backing down. They're gonna stick to their numbers and forbid their members to research it for themselves. I have to agree that "their malaise will continue and deepen". Current members will drop off as they get the nerve to research on their own and potential new members will research using the Internet before committing to an "off-beat" religion, generally speaking.
i worked in the cable industry for awhile and each year we would go to a convention in which stations would promote themselves to keep our business.
in doing this, there were always the adult channels represented, as well.
while i walked the floor and met people from showtime, hbo and other stations.
A star is a star is a star. Movie star or porn star, they're still a star. People who don't watch porn don't know the porn stars, but then there are people who don't keep up with Hollywood movies, so they don't know a lot of those stars. It doesn't change the fact that they are well known in their field of work and fanbase. That's how I see it anyway.
went to meeting yesterday with wife , the talk was about the 120 year of moses & 1914 = 2034 as the end.
are they doing it again?
You must've been sleeping during the talk, midwest, LOL. Shouldn't it be the 120 years that Noah waited?
radical, militant islamists or a "rogue state" like n. korea will eventually succeed in nuking one or more american cities.
of this i am utterly convinced, it is not a matter of it "might" happen, the question is how soon will they succeed in pulling it off, and what will the fallout of such an event be, besides the loss of hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of lives?.
john kerry in a recent stump speech said that all it would take is one megaterrorist attack to drastically change life as we know it.
What do you call two 747s? Al Queda already HAVE used WMD's against the american people.
I call 747s or 767s(as used on the WTC) airplanes, designed and built for transportation. They were not designed as WMD, therefore they are not WMD, despite the fact that a terrorist group was able to gain control of them and use them against innocent people. They were not owned by the terrorists, they were hi-jacked. The fact that they resorted to this means of attack shows that they did NOT possess WMD at that time. If they did, they would have used them.
I'm all for the military to go round up any terrorist outfit that has attacked or is trying to attack the US or any of its allies. I am not for over-reacting and believing every report that comes out of Washington regarding the strength of said groups and thinking that we are doomed to living in fear of being attacked.
for me, it was at the hall.
it was an evening meeting.
i felt a kind of mental surge within me brewing and i got and went to the men?s room.
Slow process for me. It was little things over time that did it for me. There was no bolt of lightening at a specific time.
This comment got me to thinking:
I honestly cannot fathom leaving the JWs without reading Crisis of Conscience.I have CoC and it is excellent so far(still reading), but for me, I had already decided to quit before looking into this book. I wonder though, it took reading and studying books to become a JW, why do we need a book to quit being a JW? Why do we need affirmation from a book to convince us? If we "know", truly "know", then we should be able to walk away without it. I'm not critisizing the book or the comment, it just made me think about it. The book is eye-opening and I recommend it, but I believe that one can see through the WTS and leave without reading it.
radical, militant islamists or a "rogue state" like n. korea will eventually succeed in nuking one or more american cities.
of this i am utterly convinced, it is not a matter of it "might" happen, the question is how soon will they succeed in pulling it off, and what will the fallout of such an event be, besides the loss of hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of lives?.
john kerry in a recent stump speech said that all it would take is one megaterrorist attack to drastically change life as we know it.
The United States has repeatedly said its worst fear is that a group like al Qaeda might obtain access to weapons of mass destruction and use them against the American people.
Remember, this is coming from the same government that said Iraq had WMD.
