btw, MC, where did you find the full quote?
Posts by VM44
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7112/15/12 Watchower Study Edition - Higher Eduction = Thinking in a "complicated" manner
by yourmomma ini found this quote from the 12/15/12 p.29 study edition of the watchtower to be hilarious:.
"a college graduate in the united states.
says: i spent 18 years speaking and writing.
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12/15/12 Watchower Study Edition - Higher Eduction = Thinking in a "complicated" manner
by yourmomma ini found this quote from the 12/15/12 p.29 study edition of the watchtower to be hilarious:.
"a college graduate in the united states.
says: i spent 18 years speaking and writing.
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VM44
Thanks MC for finding the full quote.
There was no indication in the version appearing in the 12/15/12 Watchtower that significant portions were left out.
The Watchtower editors actually CHANGED the meaning of what she said!
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Watchtower Dishonesty
by Vanderhoven7 injust re-discovered this gem:.
"it is a matter of fact that the history of the watchtower society is riddled with failed date-setting and abandoned doctrine,1 and the society has gone to great lengths to hide this past from its members.
older (incriminating) watchtower publications are virtually impossible to obtain through the society,2 while at the same time members are overwhelmed with "current" watchtower material.. the watchtower society has even gone as far as to publish disinformation about its own history in an attempt to convince readers that watchtower doctrine has remained consistent over the years, and that the society is not a false prophet.
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VM44
The link takes you to a polish web page.
Click on the "Poblerz" button, and the download should start.
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12/15/12 Watchower Study Edition - Higher Eduction = Thinking in a "complicated" manner
by yourmomma ini found this quote from the 12/15/12 p.29 study edition of the watchtower to be hilarious:.
"a college graduate in the united states.
says: i spent 18 years speaking and writing.
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VM44
"A college graduate in the United States
says: “I spent 18 years speaking and writing
in the abstract language of higher education.
I developed a habit of speaking
and thinking in a way that was more complicated
than necessary. I realized I needed
to make big changes in my way of thinking
and speaking.” Now an effective evangelizer,
she writes: “The simplified Watchtower has
proved to be a great help. Its language gives
me an excellent example of how to put things
simply.”And at what grade level is the simplifed Watchtower written?
Forget "Higher Education" it isn't even written at the Junior High comprehension level.
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Watchtower Dishonesty
by Vanderhoven7 injust re-discovered this gem:.
"it is a matter of fact that the history of the watchtower society is riddled with failed date-setting and abandoned doctrine,1 and the society has gone to great lengths to hide this past from its members.
older (incriminating) watchtower publications are virtually impossible to obtain through the society,2 while at the same time members are overwhelmed with "current" watchtower material.. the watchtower society has even gone as far as to publish disinformation about its own history in an attempt to convince readers that watchtower doctrine has remained consistent over the years, and that the society is not a false prophet.
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VM44
"The Schoolastic Dishonesty of the Watchtower"
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Jesus invisible presence in 1914, what purpose did it serve?
by jam inwhy did jesus arrive invisible?
what is he supposedly to do.
for mankind since 1914?
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VM44
Carl Sagan's Remarks About Jehovah's Witnesses False Prophecies
Alan Feuerbacher
A few years after the complete collapse of everything C. T. Russell had predicted, J. F. Rutherford began a process of replacing Russell's unfulfilled predictions with a series of invisible and spiritual events associated with the years 1914 and 1918. By the early 1930s the process was complete.
An interesting comment on this transformation was made by Carl Sagan in his book Broca's Brain (New York: Ballantine Books, 1979, pp. 332-333):
Doctrines that make no predictions are less compelling than those which make correct predictions; they are in turn more successful than doctrines that make false predictions.
But not always. One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014.' A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way." But they did not. They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not. Instead, they did something much more ingenious.
They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration were needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry.
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King David an example in morality?
by hoser infrom november study wt page 7 par 17. .
"consider too how davids example of earnestly seeking god's guidance can help us to resist the temptation to view pornographic images".
"meditating on his elevated standards equips us to keep free from the snare of pornography".
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VM44
Was Bathsheba a victim, or was she a calculating woman?
Wasn't she NOT mentioned by name in Jesus' lineage?
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Jesus invisible presence in 1914, what purpose did it serve?
by jam inwhy did jesus arrive invisible?
what is he supposedly to do.
for mankind since 1914?
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VM44
"you have to admit, we weren't the sharpest religion on the block"
Except when it comes to money! The Watchtower is very sharp in how it handles money.
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King David an example in morality?
by hoser infrom november study wt page 7 par 17. .
"consider too how davids example of earnestly seeking god's guidance can help us to resist the temptation to view pornographic images".
"meditating on his elevated standards equips us to keep free from the snare of pornography".
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VM44
David was a murderer.
Yet Jehovah protected him!
Everyone around him had to pay for David's sins, usually by their death.
David would then go off and sing songs about how great and wonderful Jehovah is.
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There's gotta be another faction in the Writing Department, either that or they can't see the irony.
by Theocratic Sedition inthe past two week's worth of wt studies have made a couple points that appear contradictory in nature.
yesterday was too much, i felt at least.
either there's another faction within the writing department fighting for the equivalent of airtime in the literature, or they're all so indoctrinated that they fail to see the irony in what they publish.. for instance, take paragraph 5 from last week's lesson.. 5. unlike the law codes of many countries, "the perfect law" is neither complex nor burdensome but consists of simple commandements and principles.
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VM44
The conductor actually pointed it out as a "worldly hand shake"
And the conductor would say that a regular handshake isn't "wordly"?
Is the "standard handshake" theocratic?
Where did the standard handshake come from?
The World!
It certainly wasn't handed down from on High!
