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  NINE REVERSALS IN JULY 15TH WATCHTOWER

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's what i scavenged from the most notable watchtower i've ever read.

  it may be far more significant than many people realise!.

  and before anyone whinges that one or two are 'old light', the fact remains that all of them are rejecting what was once 'inspired truth' from the revered fds, and disagreeing with any one of these (now current) falsehoods would have resulted in your "stoning to death" and shunning by all whom you loved.

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  An elder once said that Russell's pyramid was built by "The Evil Slave"

  There is no "Evil Slave" now, so who built this pyramid monument to Charles T. Russell?
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  A judge bans a child being called Messiah

  by usualusername in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  bbc news - us judge changes baby's name from messiah to martin.

  what right does this judge have to change a babies name?

  jerk.

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  "A judge in Tennessee changed a 7-month-old boy's name to Martin from Messiah, saying the religious name was earned by one person and "that one person is Jesus Christ."

  "The word Messiah is a title and it's a title that has only been earned by one person and that one person is Jesus Christ," the judge said.

  

  Messiah also happens to be the name of the author of a well-known book on Quantum Mechanics.
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  Revisionist History...again?!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was looking for the quote from the gb about loving their "idea" of the new fds/domestics understanding.

  i went to jw.org and looked through the article about the annual meeting, but i could not find the quote!

  did i just miss it, or have they revised it already?

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  Your web browser has to have some software installed in order to see the 2012 annual meeting video.

  For some reason when I used IE on one computer, the video was was not displayed, but when I used Firefox and visited the same web page, the video was there, along with links to download it.
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  The WTBTS-What A Joke!

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i found these questions that were part of a theocratic written review for the week of february 24, 2003 that are in need of updating:.

  multiple choice: the faithful and discreet slave mentioned by jesus at matthew 24:45-47 is (a) the governing body of jehovahs witnesses; (b) all anointed christians as a group on earth at any given time; (c) jesus christ himself.

  back in 2003 the correct answer would have been (b) all anointed christians as a group on earth at any given time.

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  Why did it take until the July 15th, 2013 Watchtower before the meaning of who made up the "Faithful and Discreet slave" and "Domestics" became known?

  What took so loing?

  Is The Watchtower just making things up as they go along?
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  Office Building larger than Noah's Ark

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  this three story office building has more square footage than noah's ark did.. do you think it is big enough to hold all the "kinds" of land animals along with enough food for them to last a year?.

  could you fit all the animals from a small zoo in it, and expect them to live in it for a year?.

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  This is something interesting that I just found online.

  Question

  When was the story of Noah's Ark written?

  Answer

  The biblical story of Noah's Ark actually has two, slightly different stories woven together to appear to be one complex and slightly confusing story. The first of these was written by the Yahwist source, who lived around 800-900 BCE, while the second story was written by the Priestly source, who probably lived during the sixth century BCE*.

  The stories of Noah's Ark have much in common with the story of the great flood in the much older Epic of Gilgamesh, as well as several other Near Eastern epics. However, it was probably not a copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh, but rather they probably had a more ancient common source, written long before the time of the Hebrew people. Ian Wilson (Before the Flood) believes that there once was a great flood that to its survivors must have seemed like a world-wide event sent by the gods. This occurred in 5600 BCE, when the Mediterranean Sea broke through the narrow Bosporus land-bridge and inundated the lush farmland where the Black Sea now lies. Epic stories of this event and its survivors would have been passed on orally until the development of writing at least one thousand years later, when the legend predecessor to Noah's Ark was committed to writing.

  Footnote

  * The verses attributed to the Yahwist are: Genesis 6:5-8, 7:1-5, 7:7, 7:10, 7:12, 7:16b-17, 7:22-23, 8:2b-3a, 8:6, 8:8-12, 8:13b, 8:20-22. The verses attributed to the Priestly author are: Genesis 6:9-22, 7:6, 7:8-9, 7:11, 7:13-16a, 7:18-21, 7:24, 8:1-2a, 8:3b-5, 8:7, 8:13a, 8:14-19, 9:1-17.
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  What I think about the "We just love this idea" of David Splane

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the jw.org video about the annual meeting contains david splane saying "we just love this idea", when talking about the adjusted fds doctrine.

  "we just love this idea"????

  when it becomes one of the fundament teachings of the organisational part of a religion, the rank-and-file witnesses are expected to be convinced about these kind of doctrines.

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  Hi Watchtower-Free,

  I might have a problem with my web browser then.

  Thanks for checking and letting us know the video is still there.

  Now, if I can only find a way to download it.
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  What I think about the "We just love this idea" of David Splane

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the jw.org video about the annual meeting contains david splane saying "we just love this idea", when talking about the adjusted fds doctrine.

  "we just love this idea"????

  when it becomes one of the fundament teachings of the organisational part of a religion, the rank-and-file witnesses are expected to be convinced about these kind of doctrines.

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  2012 Annual Meeting Program

  Guests from dozens of countries gathered for the 128th annual meeting of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. View highlights from this momentous occasion.

  http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/video-clip-2012-annual-meeting-program/

  "View highlights from this momentous occasion."

  I do not see any video on that page.

  I wanted to hear David Splane say "We love this new teaching," but the video appears to be missing!

  What happened?
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  Office Building larger than Noah's Ark

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  this three story office building has more square footage than noah's ark did.. do you think it is big enough to hold all the "kinds" of land animals along with enough food for them to last a year?.

  could you fit all the animals from a small zoo in it, and expect them to live in it for a year?.

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  VM44

  

  This three story office building has more square footage than Noah's ark did.

  Do you think it is big enough to hold all the "kinds" of land animals along with enough food for them to last a year?

  Could you fit all the animals from a small zoo in it, and expect them to live in it for a year?
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  Apostate books

  by search4truth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after learning ttatt attending meetings is real pain for me but have no option other then participate.

  since many jw use mobile devices during meetings i use them too.

  but instead of wt or bible study book i read apostate books like raymond franz books ,captive of concept etc.it helps a lot to survive 2 hours of boredom.

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  VM44

  Here is another good book to read on your mobile.

  Apostles of Denial: An Examination and Expose of the History, Doctrines and Claims of the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Edmond C. Gruss.

  http://archive.org/details/ApostlesOfDenial

  First published in 1970. This was Gruss' first work on Jehovah's Witnesses and he has subsequently authored three additional titles on the Witnesses. Permission for non-commercial distribution on the Internet granted by the author on January 22, 2009 provided no changes are made to the text. Book was originally written as a Master's Thesis and was subsequently enlarged and updated. This PDF version includes an additional chapter entitled: "Russell's Bible Student Movement -- A Millerite Offshoot" taken from "Jehovah's Witnesses: Their Claims, Doctrinal Changes, and Prophetic Speculation. What Does the Record Show?"
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  Apostate books

  by search4truth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after learning ttatt attending meetings is real pain for me but have no option other then participate.

  since many jw use mobile devices during meetings i use them too.

  but instead of wt or bible study book i read apostate books like raymond franz books ,captive of concept etc.it helps a lot to survive 2 hours of boredom.

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  VM44

  "I am flabbergasted that the Society hasn't made yet another rule about not using electronics inside the Kingdom Hall."

  Both the Watchtower and Awake! magazines are available as epub and pdf documents.

  I am going to venture to guess that many JWs follow the Watchtower study using their iPad or tablet computer.