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  David Splane in Pictures

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  David Splane in Pictures

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  February 2014- Watchtower Public edition now available!

  by A.proclaimer in

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  the new watchtower public edition titled "the war that chnaged the world" and the awake titled "how to invest your time wisely" for february are up.

  looks like they are still sticking to 1914. they do talk about the war and tie it in with the 1914 interpretation.. watchtower public:.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20140201/.

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  Why did the article not mention the date World War One began?

  From the Wikipedia:

  World War I (WWI or WW1), also known as the First World War, was a global war centred in Europe that began on 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918.
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  Elders appointed by Holy Spirit, an error in logic

  by VM44 in

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  the watchtower and the jws use the following reasoining to "prove" that elders are appointed by holy spirit.. 1) the bible was written under inspiration of the holy spirt.. 2) the bible requirements for and elder are followed when selecting and appointing elders.. 3) therefore, the elders are appointed by holy spirt.. thre is a logical flaw in this argument.. consider the following counter example.. suppose that a person obtains a book on medicine written by a doctor a, and that the person follows the instructions in the book concerning the writing a prescription.. 1) can the perscription that the person wrote be considered as having been written by doctor a?.

  2) can the perscription that the person wrote even be considered as having been written under the direction of doctor a?.

  the answer to both questions is "no.".

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  The Watchtower and the JWs use the following reasoining to "prove" that elders are appointed by Holy Spirit.

  1) The Bible was written under inspiration of the Holy Spirt.

  2) The Bible requirements for and elder are followed when selecting and appointing elders.

  3) Therefore, the elders are appointed by Holy Spirt.

  Thre is a logical flaw in this argument.

  Consider the following counter example.

  Suppose that a person obtains a book on medicine written by a Doctor A, and that the person follows the instructions in the book concerning the writing a prescription.

  1) Can the perscription that the person wrote be considered as having been written by Doctor A?

  2) Can the perscription that the person wrote even be considered as having been written under the direction of Doctor A?

  The answer to both questions is "No."

  The same answer applies to whether the Holy Spirit appoints elders.

  So what is the logical error in the Watchtower's reasoning?
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  Quotes to discourage JWs from researching WT history?

  by JWOP in

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  are there any direct quotes from the watchtower's literature that discourages investigation into their past doctrines and practices?.

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  From the 2013 Yearbook.

  "Those seeds of truth doubtless included the 1920 booklet Millions Now Living Will Never Die!"

  Question: Did the 1920 booklet "Millions Now Living Will Never Die!" contain any seeds of truth at all?

  Certainly the title turned out to be in error.
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  USA, Oklahoma | Jehovah's Witness church elder Ronald Lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to 1980s

  by jwleaks in

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  usa, oklahoma | jehovah's witness church elder ronald lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to the 1980's.

  a 76-year-old mcalester man was arrested tuesday on 19 counts of sexual abuse after police received claims he molested several children while in a position of authority more than 30 years ago.. mcalester police detectives were alerted to the alleged sexual crimes conducted by ronald lawrence back in august when his first accuser reported abuse at the hands of a jehovah's witness church leader.. a woman now in her 40s told detectives lawrence, an elder at mcalester's kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses, abused her when she was just eight years old, inviting her to his home, where he fondled her and raped her in his bathtub, according to her testimony found in lawrence's arrest warrant, which was issued tuesday.. two other accusers, also in their 40s, then came forward with similar stories of abuse.

  both said they were very young, with one telling investigators the molestation took place from the time she was 10 until she was 13 years old.

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  "As it is believed the bible was written under inspiration of the holy spirit they can say he was appointed by holy spirit."

  The Watchtower uses this reasoning.

  But consider this illustration. Suppose that I obtain a book on medicine written by a Doctor A, and that I follow the instructions in it concerning writing a prescription.

  Two questions could be asked.

  1) Can the perscription that I wrote be considered as being written by Doctor A?

  2) Can the perscription that I wrote even be considered as being written under the direction of Doctor A?

  The answer to both questions is "No."

  The same answer applies to whether the Holy Spirit appoints elders.
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  Feb 2014 WT Study article

  by molybdenum in

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  the caption under the picture in the first article.

  hail christthe glorious king!says:.

  birds will be called on to cleanse the earth (see paragraph 18).

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  "Birds will be called on to cleanse the earth"

  What?! No Anti-matter will be used?

  I am disappointed.
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  Free Bible Study or Indoctrination Session?

  by VM44 in

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  ...and are the jws forthcoming at the start what the "study" really is?.

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  ...and are the JWs forthcoming at the start what the "study" really is?
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  Articles on Quantum Mechanics in the magazines, how many?

  by VM44 in

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  how many articles on quantum mechanics have been published in the watchtower and awake magazines?.

  could someone with the wt-cd library check on this?.

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  How many articles on quantum mechanics have been published in the Watchtower and Awake magazines?

  Could someone with the WT-CD library check on this?
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  The JWs are like people who read Science FIction

  by VM44 in

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  ...and then think that they have a science education!.

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  ...and reading the Awake! magazine gives a person the equivalent of a college education.