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  Why do the GB need a new Bethel compound if the end is so close? Here is the "official" answer

  by sir82 in

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  as most of us know, the society is spending 10's of millions of dollars on a giant, state of the art, secluded bunker country club headquarters in very remote, isolated warwick ny.. the question that "some" have is, why?

  if armageddon is coming "very soon", why go to all that time & effort & expense?

  why have thousands of jws dedicating their time to this massive effort instead of the "lifesaving ministry"?.

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  a giant, state of the art, secluded bunker country club headquarters in very remote, isolated Warwick NY.

  Does anyone have the address for this new facility in Warwick, NY?

  I would like to see an aerial view of the location on Google Maps.
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  Scriptural list of gods anger?

  by iCeltic in

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  can anyone point me in the right direction, a good descriptive list of gods anger, genocide, vengeance and general things that we would view as bad and the scriptures next to it to show where these things are in the bible?.

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  Just checked Amazon's webpage for the "Drunk with Blood" book.

  The lowest price displayed for the book is $577.58!!!!
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  David Splane does not bow head when giving a prayer!

  by VM44 in

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  2. scandals

  this is a report in spanish conerning david splane giving a prayer at a convention.. perhaps someone can translate it better, but google translate gave the following:.

  during prayer, should no longer be necessary to bow his head in a mass meeting, as was splane throughout the prayer, head up, down, left and right looking at all tiers, not hiding in the least.. so splane is looking all around at the sudience while giving a prayer?!!!.

  can someone confirm that is what the spanish text says?.

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  Thank you Calebs Airplane for making clear what was written in Spanish.

  The title of this thread should now be updated to:

  David Splane does not bow head during prayers!

  If anyone has the opportunity to observe Splane during a prayer, please do so and tell us what he does.
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  If all authority comes from God what explains Hitler

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  "All authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God."

  Does Paul prove this statement, or does he simply state it?
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  David Splane does not bow head when giving a prayer!

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is a report in spanish conerning david splane giving a prayer at a convention.. perhaps someone can translate it better, but google translate gave the following:.

  during prayer, should no longer be necessary to bow his head in a mass meeting, as was splane throughout the prayer, head up, down, left and right looking at all tiers, not hiding in the least.. so splane is looking all around at the sudience while giving a prayer?!!!.

  can someone confirm that is what the spanish text says?.

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  This is a report in Spanish conerning David Splane giving a prayer at a convention.

  Perhaps someone can translate it better, but Google Translate gave the following:

  During prayer, should no longer be necessary to bow his head in a mass meeting, as was Splane throughout the prayer, head up, down, left and right looking at all tiers, not hiding in the least.

  So Splane is looking all around at the sudience while giving a prayer?!!!

  Can someone confirm that is what the Spanish text says?

  Amazing if it is so.

  From:

  http://johnhenrykurtz.blogspot.com/2011/03/hermano-david-splane-para-cuando-la.html

  Se me olvidó añadir unas curiosidades más, sobre todo para los testigos que nos leen.
  Durante la oración, ya no deber ser necesario agachar la cabeza en una reunión multitudinaria, ya que Splane estuvo durante toda la oración, cabeza arriba, abajo, a izquierda y derecha mirando a todas las gradas, sin disimular en lo más mínimo.
  Y lo de no agarrarse durante la oración que decía hace poco la Atalaya, también se ha debido eliminar. David y Lynda estaban muy, muy agarraditos.
  ¿Será otra nueva luz, o asunto de conciencia, o seguiremos el dicho "haz lo que yo diga, pero no lo que yo haga?
  
  Saludos
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  David Splane stares at school children

  by VM44 in

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  may 11 2013, zone visit; brother splane visits ireland.

  brother splane spoke on the subject should you wear sauls garment?.

  .... "bro and sis splane were once assigned to a fanatically catholic town.

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  – May 11 2013, Zone Visit; Brother Splane visits Ireland

  Brother Splane spoke on the subject – ‘Should You Wear Saul’s Garment?’
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  "Bro and Sis Splane were once assigned to a fanatically Catholic town. Each day they had to cross a long bridge over a river at the same time that about 200 school children passed over in the opposite direction. So, they decided to look each one of the people squarely in the eye. What happened? Nothing, except the people were the first to look away!
  We must force ourselves to stand proud not look like a whipped puppy."
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  September 14, 1940 Saturday Evening Post article on Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Terry in

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  page 1page 2page 3page 4page 5page 6page 7. .

  if you open each page and hit ctrl+++ the pages are clearly readable!.

  somebody with more patience than me can copy and paste the images if they like.. facinating look at how bellicose the jw's were under rutherford.. .

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  "They hate all religions"

  At that time, Jehovah's Witnesses did not consider themselves as a relgion.

  This Saturday Evening Post article by Stanley High is one of the best articles to ever be written about the JWs.

  How many insightfull articles about the Jehovah's Witnesses and The Watchtower have been published in the 70 years since this one was?

  Not many.

  I wonder why?
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  September 14, 1940 Saturday Evening Post article on Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Terry in

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  page 1page 2page 3page 4page 5page 6page 7. .

  if you open each page and hit ctrl+++ the pages are clearly readable!.

  somebody with more patience than me can copy and paste the images if they like.. facinating look at how bellicose the jw's were under rutherford.. .

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  Also can be obtained from archive.org along with two other articles.

  http://archive.org/details/1940sReportsOnJehovahsWitnesses

  1940s Reports on Jehovah's Witnesses

  3 magazines articles on Jehovah's Witnesses: "Armageddon Inc," in the Sept. 14, 1940 Saturday Evening Post. "Peddlers of Paradise" by Jerome Beatty in the November, 1940 The American. "Jehovah's Travelling Salesmen" by Bill Davidson in the November 2, 1946 Colliers. The articles are based upon conventions of Jehovah's Witnesses held in the 1940s.
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  Scriptural list of gods anger?

  by iCeltic in

  1. watchtower
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  can anyone point me in the right direction, a good descriptive list of gods anger, genocide, vengeance and general things that we would view as bad and the scriptures next to it to show where these things are in the bible?.

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  http://www.amazon.com/Drunk-Blood-Gods-killings-Bible/dp/145366291X/

  

  Drunk With Blood: God's killings in the Bible

  by Steve Wells (Author) You've probably heard of a few of the stories in this book. Noah's Flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, David and Goliath, maybe. But there are more than 100 others that are unknown to pretty much everyone. Did you know, for example, that God: *Forced friends and family to kill each other for dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf? *Burned complainers to death, forced the survivors to eat quail until it literally came out their noses, sent "fiery serpents" to bite people for complaining about the lack of food and water, and killed 14,700 for complaining about his killings? *Helped Samson murder thirty men for their clothes, slaughter 1000 with the jawbone of an ass, and kill 3000 civilians in a a suicide terrorist attack? *Smote Philistines with hemorrhoids in their secret parts? *Slowly killed a baby to punish David for committing adultery? *Killed 70,000 because David had a census that he (or Satan) told him to do? *Sent a lion to kill a prophet for believing another prophet's lie, another lion to kill a man for not smiting a prophet, and more lions to kill people that didn't fear him enough? *Killed 450 religious leaders in a prayer contest and burned 102 men to death for asking Elijah to come down from his hill? *Sent two bears to rip apart 42 boys for making fun of Elisha's bald head? *Killed Ahab for not killing a captured king, and then sent Jehu to kill all of Ahab's family and friends who had ever "pissed against a wall?" All of these killings, and more, are found in the Bible, and the God of the Bible is proud of each one. Here's what he said about them: "I kill ... I wound ... I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh." -- Deuteronomy 32:39-42 These stories fill the pages of the Bible, yet they are seldom read in church and are ignored by most Bible believers. Drunk with Blood brings them out into the open. It's time for us all to take a look.
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  Scriptural list of gods anger?

  by iCeltic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can anyone point me in the right direction, a good descriptive list of gods anger, genocide, vengeance and general things that we would view as bad and the scriptures next to it to show where these things are in the bible?.

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  These lists are essentially meaningless.

  The list shows how much killing is part of the Bible.