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  Why 1914 is utterly true (and so is 607 B.C.E.)

  by Terry in

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  1914 is a very significant date for true believers.

  faithful and eager students of the scriptures figured out (and "proved") jesus would return to kill the wicked and reward the meek in 1874. the signs were obvious.

  but, it didn't happen.

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  Solid gold thread.
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  Witnessing to athiests

  by zound in

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  can't seem to find anything about this in the reasoning book.

  what do jehovah's witnesses usually say / instructed to say to try and get athiests interesteds in joining?.

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  Just run like hell with your fingers in your ears while yelling "la la la la I can't hear you!" as loud as you can.
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  The final chapter in the confusedandalone story...

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this morning i get a frantic call from my sister (who has been baptized 1 year and one month and never attends meetings anymore).

  in tears she tells me that this morning my father picked her up in the car and told her that i was am apostate.

  that i no longer loved jehovah and that i was going to be disfellowshipped.

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  Hey! I am glad you are doing good with this. I think you've done great! I am so excited to hear from the coworker if she decides to post one day. I am so HAPPY she knows... It's hard at first, but then life gets so much better. Please tell her we all said bravo and hi.
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  Evolution, Biogeography VS. Experimental archaeology

  by Brother of the Hawk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought of posting this on an ongoing thread regarding proof of noahs flood by poster *lost*, but i think a separate thread is needed.

  this is why.. first my disclaimer.

  this thread is a theory since so many people love the theory and so as not to hurt feelings and insult anyone, this is only a theory.. my personal observation is this, as long as you bash watchtower all is ok. as soon as you try to present any resemblance of christianity or any belief in the bible, such as the flood, you are personally bashed.

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  Honestly, I don't understand what you wrote to me. It doesn't make sense to me... But, I can tell that for the last few weeks you have been offended and hurt. I didn't intend to hurt you or make you feel bad like you do. Sorry about that. I think it's sad that you spent the time you did thinking about all that stuff and letting it boil in you when you don't really understand the way the people you are attacking now feel.

  What you wrote about a sick persons health was cruel and unnecessary. I know you are still a Christian. Would Jesus be proud of you for that lowest of blows? He would not. I may have doubts in the bible and god, but I know what Christ was supposed to have been, and it is not what you wrote here.

  You just alienated yourself from 99% of the folks here.

  I feel sorry for you.
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  Did the Serpent Lie?

  by CyrusThePersian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in john 8:44 jesus is quoted as saying that the devil is a "liar and the father of the lie.

  " an obvious reference to the serpent story in genesis chapter 3.

  (the johannine community, responsible for the gospel of john, the epistles of 1, 2, 3 john and revelation, was among the first to equate the serpent of genesis with satan, see rev.

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  The serpent was a freedom fighter. I appreciate that freedom I have.
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  What was YOUR wake-up call before you left the JW´s organization?

  by Mr Fool in

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  2. beliefs

  what was your wake-up call(s) before you left the jw s organization?

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  Rubadubdub isn't that funny? You leave the happiest people, and the only true religion and depression and anxiety go away! For me, I also successfully overcame alcoholism (so far) when I left.

  For me personally, I was born in and raised in by great parents. My dad served as an elder since I was young. My parents were the type who always had over C.O.'s and pioneers for gatherings. I was taken out of public school before high school and private schooled at home. I was encouraged to pioneer or go to bethel or be a missionary from a young age. When I was a younger teenager I began pioneering. Served as a MS at a young age and for a long time to follow.

  I'm very observant. I notice even very small details. For the last 7 or 8 years I had problems with the flood, the Tower of Babel, why the different races on earth were adapted for the climate or area they lived in... I was too deep and trained since born to think critically. Instead I was pummeled with confusion and discomfort that I began drowning in alcohol. It started slow. But over the last seven yrs the alcohol went from stress relief, crutch, escape, and finally the only way to get thru the day. When I finally realized I was drinking lately to cover my doubts in god, I decided to stop drinking and confront all my doubts.

  I started with just the WT pubs alone. I began in depth research. I looked up and googled quoted sources... One of the scariest days of my life. I had a partially formed thought that the Society believed what they taught a d that I was just an unbeliever who would choose to go against the evidence. When I found the misquotes and lies, it hurt.

  From there, I am now here. And happy! For the first time in a long time. Stopped drinking a while back. Going through the struggles of having all my family in, but managing. I wouldn't go back if given the choice. My son is too much like me. Always asking deep questions. I would have had to tell to many lies. I would have had to make him miss out on too many things over beliefs the wife and I didn't believe.

  We are happy.
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  What was YOUR wake-up call before you left the JW´s organization?

  by Mr Fool in

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  2. beliefs

  what was your wake-up call(s) before you left the jw s organization?

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  I don't think I've welcomed you yet jaydoubleu. So welcome! Glad to have you. What got my wife thinking was a pretty recent article on invitro fertilization. It said it was gross misuse of the sexual organs. Ummmm, two people NOT having sex or touching or anything, just two people artificially having a baby is gross misuse of the sexual organs?? My wife was shocked. Her real non cult voice said, that's crazy.
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  hmm...not sure what to do...

  by wizardca in

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  2. experiences

  the wife and i found out today she is preggo!

  we aren't going to share the blessed news with family until the end of the first trimester later this year...if we can hold out and keep it a secret until then.

  but i don't know what to do with my jw fam.

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  I think I would understand and agree with either choice you made. I know thats not incredibly helpful. But, I see valid reasons for both and I don't think you would "wrong" to make either choice. I want to say my gut says to invite them only as a way to show you are a happy better person. Be prepared for them not to come, and also try not to care either way. The invite would be just to show that you are a NORMAL person and a bigger person than them.
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  Why do the JW's Cover up child abuse?

  by slam in

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  Comatose

  Slam, so sorry for what you went through... I was a born in witness and just left this yr after half my life. My life wasn't like that. I am so sorry for you. Glad you have survived and can vent now to people who care.

  I think that most JW's truly believe they are the ONLY true religion. As such, when someone commits a despicable crime, they are mentally classed as "not a real witness". After all, how could a "real witness" do that they wonder. So, they cover it up and hide it so as not to bring reproach on gods name. They also feel that they will be classed with the person who commits these atrocities. I think in a way they feel that hiding it is the "right thing to do".

  They are so concerned about gods name and their reputations as well, that they hide it instead of coming down hard on it like they should.

  I think the way it is handled is completely wrong and a TRULY bad reflection on the god they say they want to worship. I do not agree with it or think it is right. I'm just describing what I think they feel from the 30+ years I was stuck brainwashed in the cult.
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  DID JEHOVAH LIE ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in view of this wt quote, and the july 15th 2013 wt:.

  wt 09/15/2010.

  " similarly today, a governing body composed of spirit-anointed christians contributes to the unity of the worldwide congregation.

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  Comatose

  Logic is the curse we all have to deal with as we leave da troof.