Posts by cultBgone

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I was counciled for putting in Pioneer hours and not officially "Pioneering"

by RubaDub in

i didn't want to hijack the thread about people having to "wait" until the society approves their pioneer status.. i recall once an elder was shocked that i had done the 60 hours a couple of months but not officially on the pioneer list for the months.

i told him that i didn't need the title, that the purpose was to do the work, not get a title.. i then heard a long lecture about how that was not encouraging to others, etc, etc, etc.. he got rather annoyed when i asked him what the purpose of the preaching work is.

of course he said to spread the good news.

cultBgone

Once upon a time when we lived in a small rural congregation with only one pioneer (and she was an anointed sister sent there by the wts), a family member and I decided we would try to support her efforts and submitted our pio applications. While waiting to be approved, we did 100+ hours just to see if we could. The weather was good and we had the time that summer/fall, so it was kinda fun. Well, the eldubs never got back to us and when we asked about our applications, they told us that they weren't sure we could do the hours. Right.... btw, before we stepped it up, our regular hours were 40-50. So then they said, well if you can keep up the hours then we'll announce you in January. So they made us be reg aux pios for four months instead.

Turns out the real reason they held us back was so the p.o. could be announced at the same time. They apparently didn't want us to take any of his "glory." We kept it up for years....he was deleted as an elder about a year later.

Things that make you go....sigh....lol

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

cultBgone

I'm being unreasonable? Unreasonable is using the "imperfect men" excuse for an organization created by men who use nonsensical language to distort your thinking, watcher. You need to wake up.

If there is only ONE organization on this earth that represents God, then it should be distinguishable by its Perfection, not by its Imperfection. The bible never says that God's followers are to be known by their sinful conduct. If you can't tell the difference between religions because they protect child molesters while allowing the victims to go unassisted and shamed, there is no way any one of them represents God.

Has your child been molested and were you told to keep it quiet...like what happened to my family? I doubt it.

Unreasonable my arse.

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

cultBgone

leaving_quietly said:

My dedication was to God. It was not to an organization.

*** w66 10/1 pp. 603-604 par. 15 Serving with Everlasting Life in View ***
This is what we mean when we dedicate our lives to Jehovah. We do not dedicate ourselves to a religion, nor to a man, nor to an organization. No, we dedicate ourselves to the Supreme Sovereign of the Universe, our Creator, Jehovah God himself. This makes dedication a very personal relationship between us and Jehovah.

I find it impossible to believe that a god who created the universe would continually, throughout history, allow human organizations run by unscrupulous men to proclaim representation of him while sheltering child abusers, lining their pockets by fleecing poor families, breaking apart families and teaching followers to be arrogant and gleeful about hoped-for destruction of their fellow humans.

And so I doubt...

Doesn't make me a bad person. Just removing myself from that evil influence so as to become a better one.

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

cultBgone

bumping this

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Good News Report

by Watchtower-Free in

good news report: talked to a man who is currently studying with the.

jws.

he called into jwstruggle.com and asked to talk to someone.. i called him back .

cultBgone

Donate at the kh or to jw.struggle? Well that's a no-brainer! Let's help keep those phone lines open!

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Do you have a newfound thirst for self-expression after leaving the religion?

by Apognophos in

jw
friends

i'm not even out yet and sometimes i feel like expressing my opinions loudly, wearing t-shirts with messages on them (gasp!

), and getting up in people's faces when they annoy me.

sometimes the thought of a fistfight sounds appealing.

cultBgone

Apog, I think I understand what you mean. It's the reverse of when someone new first learns "the truth" and wants to tell absolutely everyone about all the cool new stuff they are learning. When you learn The Real Truth [TTATT], you want to shout it out from the rooftops because it is such Freedom! Personally, I wish I could use the bumper sticker someone posted that said something like "I've survived 5 End Times Already!" or even "Religion Is A Snare And A Racket" but they won't work in my fade....

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What surprising reactions have you experienced from family and friends?

by cultBgone in

jw
friends

musing over several rather eye-opening reactions i've recently experienced has made me wonder what others have been told that made them go...wow.. my earliest was a family member upset with me for not attending meetings who exclaimed, "but you're going to die at armageddon!

" i told them that wasn't true because the bible says that god is love and he doesn't work that way.

they were very angry with me!

cultBgone

Musing over several rather eye-opening reactions I've recently experienced has made me wonder what others have been told that made them go...wow.

My earliest was a family member upset with me for not attending meetings who exclaimed, "But you're going to die at armageddon!" I told them that wasn't true because the bible says that god is Love and he doesn't work that way. They were very angry with me! I realized it wasn't ME they were concerned about, but their own sense of loss that if I would not be there [paradise™], they would be miserable, so their reaction really was "how could I do this to them". The sad part for me was that I had raised this person as a jw. Happily, they have since seen the light.

I would love to share my three more recent reactions but sadly I cannot open them up to lurkers at this time.

What about you? Any experiences that made you just shake your head and say wow, how did I ever believe THAT?

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I had a funny feeling he was a Witness... and now I need help.

by noontide in

jw
friends

im in a bit of a bind and im not quite sure what (if anything) i can do about it.

i was recently hired as a business consultant for a rather large company.

the company that hired me mentioned that they are concerned about a certain department and the way its being run, as this department affects every other department in the company.

cultBgone

The posters are correct, you have to remove the jw element as just look at his skill-set and performance. The company brought you in to "discover" the problem with the department, not to fix this person (belief system aside). I realized that the issue is with the Director of this particular department. You probably identified him quickly because you have an active jw-meter, but that should really work to your advantage as it's easy for you to spot the "work dissonance" with him, where the company's work parameters/directives/goals are not meshing with his behavior.

Using the department's goals, detail in writing how (no "why" needs to be mentioned) his actions and/or inactions are causing poor performance and morale....and congratulate yourself on doing a great job so fast! Maybe you'll get a bonus.

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Good News Report

by Watchtower-Free in

good news report: talked to a man who is currently studying with the.

jws.

he called into jwstruggle.com and asked to talk to someone.. i called him back .

cultBgone

Awesome job, much applause!!!

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BREAKING NEWS ! 89 Jehovah's Witnesses lost their homes in Valparaiso,Chile

by raymond frantz in

89 jehovah's witnesses lost their houses (read full article here).

news are coming through now , 20 days, later about a fire that destroyed the houses of 89 jehovahs witnesses in valparaiso,chile.

according to jw.org ,on april 13, 2014 a wildfire started by strong pacific winds destroyed most of the old city of valparaiso, that lies in the coastline of chile.the fire destroyed almost 3,000 homes and thousands were displaced as a result.so far the authorites have reported 15 people dead ,one of the them a jehovahs witness..

cultBgone

Thanks for posting, what a sad day this was! (((hugs))) for the families and friends