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  Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

  but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

  i was talking to a jw last night.

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  cultBgone

  I know some female jdubs in their 20s who are great fun and quite spiritual in a non-pretentious jw way (they don't look down on others). Yet they have fallen victim to the "dowdy" dress standards encouraged by the bOrg and the obesity issue does not seem to register as a problem with them. They don't understand that their cheerful, spiritual personalities are not enough to attract a mate.
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  JWs & Guilt Trips

  by skeeter1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the watchtower is a manipulator.

  one of the tools they use is guilt, and they use it via the "guilt trip.

  " just so we are clear, a guilt trip is:.

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  cultBgone

  Group think and catchphrases are well documented in Orwellian literature. Skeeter's right about the wts teachings being perfect examples.
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  I tried to make an elder feel guilty for shunning his 2 children.

  by Jeannette in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i ran into an elder the other day at walmart.

  he's a fairly good man and has a wife that is very sickly.

  so sickly in fact i don't know how she's holding on.

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  I think it's the years and years of toxic load carried from continual cognitive dissonance. The mind and body are not distinctly separate entities but function as a unit, and the stress felt by the brain wears down the body's immune system. Sometimes when a physician says "It's all in your head" he may actually be right, not as to imagining a disease but as to the source of the immune system deficiency.
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  Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

  by cultBgone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

  i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

  did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

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  Thank you all for sharing your wonderful stories, please keep them coming. This is an amazing collection of experiences.
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  Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

  by cultBgone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

  i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

  did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

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  cultBgone

  I was thinking about how so many posters here on JWN are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of JWs, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones. I considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:

  Did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member? Did you start to listen to the misgivings in your own conscience or did a comment from family rattle your senses?
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  DEMONS: the torment I suffered

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was in my teens i wanted a room of my own, but i lived with my grandparents whose house was very small.. my uncle had been living in a little one room bed-sitter way out in the backyard.

  he married and moved away and i moved in.. it was quite isolated and the ceiling was six feet from the floor.

  unfortunately, the top of my head was four inches higher than that!

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  Exploitation of human frailties makes the indoctrination easy....it's like Mary Poppins' spoonful of sugar. Nice explanation, Terry!
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  Dilbert Comics On Cognitive Dissonance

  by frankiespeakin in

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  If only jdubs would actually apply this to themselves...but they won't. They'll just point to it as another example of how fruitless it is to be wrapped up in a corporate job when you could be out *joyfully preaching the good news of jw.org*.
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  Brother Knorr's Cadillac and other secret perks

  by tim hooper in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  back when i was a wee lad, my dad told me that the brothers in brooklyn had voted to purchase a cadillac motor car for the sole use of the then president, nathan h knorr.

  he'd got this information from the london bethel, him being a chum of the then branch overseer, pryce hughes and his pal ron drage.

  religious leaders of non-profit sects are supposed to take a vow of poverty!.

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  I think the PERKS were better defined by Rutherford's two hugely expensive Cadillacs and his "perfect" mansion in California (oh, just tell them it's for the return of the prophets...hahahaha!).
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  Arguably the best debunker on YouTube

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this fellow's channel is called watchtower examination.. he is clear, reasonable, thoughtful--but best of all--his teaching method with visuals is perfection!.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukcep7v1i1o.

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  cultBgone

  Island Man, good point.

  Sometimes explaining jdub doctrine to someone totally unfamiliar with it...makes the craziness very clear. So it stands to reason that a never-jdub would easily see through the smoke and mirrors that the dubs are so comfortable with.
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  A chance to make some Xmas $$$

  by hardtobeme in

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  2. bible

  that's right!!!!

  sell the miracle oil.

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  cultBgone

  Wow. But it's da troof!